Enough with the small ball basketball

Release either Harkless or Aminu and start playing with 2 real bigs. Discuss

 

also said essentialy the same thing in this thread: "what we didn't have this year - power forwards"

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/wh...ear-power-forwards.330701/page-2#post-4451907

 

Well, since you're repeating what you've already said in another thread, I'll do the same:

Note in the second post, I specifically discuss how a front court of Nurk, Collins and Harkless would let us go big while still being able to defend opponents small ball lineups.

BNM

 

Do you understand anything about the CBA? Releasing a player that is healthy and has any value at all is the dumbest thing a team can do. You get ZERO cap relief or tax relief. All you really do is create a roster spot, which you will have to fill. So, it actually costs you more than just keeping the player you would have released.

Harkless and Aminu may not be perfect, but they both have value and are on very reasonable contracts given their level of production. Releasing either would be monumentally stupid. We'd still be on the hook for paying their salaries and it would let a competitor pick them up for cheap. If we REALLY wanted to get rid of either, trading them to a team with cap space for a top 55 protected 2nd round pick would be a MUCH better way to go, as it would actually get their contracts off our books.

But even that would be stupid. Even if neither starts, we need backups at both forward positions and while they both may not be perfect starters, they are both better than average backups on reasonable contracts.

My best case scenario is Collins eventually wrestles the starting PF position away from Aminu (who we keep around as a back up in the last year of his contract) and Moe looks like the same Moe we saw after the all star break. As mentioned in my own quoted post above, a front court of Nurk, Collins and Harkless has insane defensive potential. All are long for their positions, yet are able to constrain smaller,quicker players in the pick and roll.

We need to see improvement on the offensive end from Collins and the ability to defend without getting in foul trouble, but I think both of those things will come with more experience, and we need to see a full season of engaged, motivate Moe, but that is a very young, very long front court. All three players have the skills and versatility to mesh together without getting in each other's way.

BNM

 

I think Aminu is one of the better contracts on the team, and in certain matchups is an ok Power Forward. I really like the idea of Nurk, Collins and Aminu as your starting front court. A lot of length there Collins probably can’t stick with NBA guards but he could at least make it harder on them. Now the real question is can Collins get his jump shot consistent enough to space the floor on offense? I don’t know but defensively I like that lineup. I don’t even mind putting Moe in at the 2 next to Dame or CJ. That’s a team that would be awfully tough to score on.

 

Of course, I missed the obvious solution:

Bring back TRob!!!!

BNM

 

It's the most efficient position for both of them.
I'd rather play smaller at small forward, even a 3 guard lineup, but bigger in the 4/5

 

I'm not kidding you that T-Rob would be an amazing addtion

 

Now if we can get the Warriors to listen to OP, the rest of the league stands a chance!

 

And what's the way to surpass them? become bigger inside

 

Quality troll post. 9/10 T-robs. Took one t-rob away for not mentioning T-rob sooner.

 

Because a shitty defender who can't even make a FT, let alone a 3-pointer, is just what we need to dominate in today's NBA?

BNM

 

Don't we have two bigs already?

 

That's why he had to go play in China.....teams were clamouring for his services...he couldn't take it any more

 

I am also in love with T Rob for reasons stats don't come close to backing up.

Like why Layman and not T Rob?

 

Counter argument: Nurkic and the other teams stretch five can't guard each other because of weight differences. Nurk scores 2pts/make the other guy scores 3pt/make. The other team wins by 10pts.

I really would like to see Nurkic/Collins/Harkless next year at 5-3, but we don't seem to use their size to our advantage and other teams seem to use their size against us.

 

You should ask all 30 GMs why (insert end of bench scrub here) and not TRob. Any one of them could have had him for cheap and all 30 passed.

BNM

 

That's not how it works. It completely ignores the defense, rebounding, passing, screening and other factors that impacts the scores of both teams.

Bottom line: POR was +3.8 points/48 with Nurkic on the court last season. So, you can have your soft, skinny stretch 5 and I'll take the guy that anchored a defense that went from 24th in the league one year to 8th in the league the next.

BNM

 

Nurkic is a solid big man defender, but we're playing too small. need to have the small ball as an option not the gameplan