OT New NFL Kneeling Rule

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  1. dviss1

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    It TRULY doesn't matter how we protest and we don't need you to tell us how. Typical whitesplaining...

    This shirt is true. I'd wear it loud and proud:

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    There you go with the race card again... that’s your MO... probably won’t get very far in life always playing the victim and blaming others for your problems
     
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    There you go with the race card card again.
     
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    If white people where kneeling this wouldn't even be a story.

    #yesisaidit
     
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    I love Doug Baldwin
     
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    It's very hard to empathize when you don't experience it everyday.

    It makes you think it doesn't exist...
     
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    Has bigoted opinions, gets mad for being called a bigot, plays the victim and blames the oppressed for fighting oppression.

    That is the quintessential trumpian logic circle right there. You want to know what really keeps people from the table...denial.

    You deny protests have any effect when they do. You deny that race based police violence exists when it does. You deny that systematic racism exists in American society when it does. So what is there to talk about when you think the problems of society don’t exist? You want to bring people to the table be honest enough to be accountable for your role in the brazen proliferation of bigotry.
     
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    Republicans are certainly not all racists. I only have to point to Senator McCain to disprove that. Senator Mitch McConnell's wife is Asian American and a Republican cabinet member.

    However, if you're a racist you're gonna support a Republican. Why? I think it's because some Republicans have unwittingly supported ideas that run counter to racial equality and I know of no Democrats who support any racist issues. A very few Republicans do it on purpose.

    I have no doubt whatsoever that dviss and his wonderful son take some uncalled for flak just because of their skin. And yet, it cut they bleed the same as you or me. They love, laugh and do all the things you or I do. And the flak they get is so uncalled for that I feel the same heat directed toward me, albeit indirectly.

    My family is from the deep deep South and I've seen it. I've seen the sign on a drinking fountain that said white only and the one that said colored only (which I drank from). I've seen the 'N' word thrown around very freely in St. Louis (Ferguson, if you must know, yep I worked on the street Michael Brown was killed on). African-Americans always wind up at the bottom and that's just wrong and I will never stop fighting this injustice.

    My father told me when I was in high school that because I am 1/16 American Indian I could not attend a public school in S. Carolina. This kind of opened my eyes. I also learned from a co-worker at Tektronix that African-Americans were barred by law from spending the night in a hotel in Beaverton, Oregon. The co-worker was the ex president of the John Birch Society who had reformed.

    So, open your eyes. Injustice is all around us and it's time for us to go to work so others can work, pay taxes and make my life a little easier as a result.
     
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    I probably experienced it in a different form when I was a youngster. Now, I don't put up with that shit.

    Time to get off your high horse, Lanny, and get back to basketball.
     
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    The ironic part about this is that Democrats are the party of slavery historically speaking... and in current day they do nothing to help minority communities come up economically... they just pander for votes every for years by calling republicans racist... just getting brainwashed by CNN for votes and not even thinking about what actual policy’s are in their best interest... and my wife and I are both different ethnicity, not white...
     
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    You can't argue with history. But I've always believed that it's not what you once believed but rather it's what you believe now.

    Edit: If it's what you once believed, I'd be guaranteed to wind up in hell. When I was young, 9,10, 11 years old, I disliked anyone different. We had dirty jokes about African-Americans, Jews, women, Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Latinos and Latinas, we didn't even approve of Catholics and our liturgy swore allegiance to the Holy Roman Catholic Church. Pretty weird, huh. Of course I was a right leaning Republican until I was about 14. Even willingly attended a YAF meeting.
     
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    Yes, did you read the 2nd half of my post... Democrats do nothing to help minority’s today... the poorest minority communities in the country have been run by Democrats for decades... all they care about is votes
     
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    This is hands down the most bullshit argument republicans make and you do it all the damn time to justify your bigotry. You take history out of context to justify racist beliefs. In that era the Democrats were the Conservative party. So call it whatever you want y’all conservative Ass hats still on the wrong side of history. Now and in the 1850’s.
     
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    I read it but I know it not to be true so rather than offend you I avoided it. I would normally choose not to reveal this unless I was asked to.
     
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    Lanny,
    I can relate, thats why I have a hard time lining up with just one way of thinking about things like Politics, Religion, & social issues.
    Im a firm believer that when someone or some body proclaim to be the only ones right and nothing else matters, it sickens my stomach.
    Im for freedom and a balance in all things and for being respectful of those i don't always totally agree with, but those with piety I struggle with to be perfectly honest.
     
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    Lanny, growing up in North Portland in the 50's, 60's there were more racist union members that were dems, than any other party that I can recall back then. I was sent to a Babtise church on Lombard near the old Crest theater, and never witnessed much racism there. It was everywhere around me though as I was raised by a staunch straight ticket family, all union members and very racist.
    So when I now hear people say one party is more racist than another, they better look for the blank in their own whatever...
     
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    straight ticket democrat family. My grandfather would roll over on his grave if he knew that i didn't tow the line and be a straight ticket democrat.
     
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    I'll just say again: I believe that kneeling was the most respectful thing those players could have done during the anthem to draw attention to the social injustice they were speaking about. There were many other actions they could have taken, but they chose to remain respectful and patriotic. It makes me sick that political decadence and racism was and is still being used to brainwash millions into believing that a respectfully delivered message about freedom and inequality was instead a protest against the United States, the flag, the anthem, mom, apple pie, and any other hot button that a few corrupt narcissistic politicians can dream up.

    OK, I'm done. Promise.

    :cheers:
     
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