Zombie What is the Best Offer We Could Get for C.J. McCollum?

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  1. BonesJones

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    It makes no sense for them unless they strikeout this off-season.
     
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    Won't necessarily happen but I wouldn't mind facilitating Lebron to Philly. Of course, if Philly has the cap space already I suppose they're not all that incentivized to use us rather than just signing him. Unless they could do something like this after signing a free agent.

    CJ to Cleveland
    Lebron to Philly
    Pick/Saric/Fultz? to Portland
     
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    Yep and this would be after free agency meaning well after the draft so they couldn’t sell the pick anymore. Even if they strike out in free agency they are better off putting aside the money for next year and offering one-year deals like they did this year with Redick and Johnson.
     
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    Sixers don’t need us to facilitate that trade and they don’t need to give up significant assets to create cap space. They need to get rid of Bayless and teams should easily absorb one year of his contract at $9M for no. 26 pick and maybe even less (they own plenty of second rounders).
     
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    What about this (Going with the Simmons podcast Myles Turner suggestion but not wanting Turner):

    Pacers get CJ

    Lakers get Myles Turner, Darren Collison (can be waived for only $2 million against the cap next year), Al Jefferson (can be waived for only $4 million against the cap next year)

    Blazers get Luol Deng, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, #25 pick, and a 2019 1st from Indy

    Pacers basically get CJ for Turner and a future 1st since they are likely to not pick up either Collison or Jefferson contracts. CJ and Oladipo is an interesting back court and CJ provides some much needed shooting.

    Lakers clear a massive amount of salary by getting rid of Deng. Sure it costs them Ingram but Turner fills a much bigger position of need for them if they go after LeBron and PG because that would relegate Ingram to the bench anyway. Turner can be their starting center if they continue the youth process or a capable big man if they sign one or both of those other guys and is super cheap for another year still.

    Blazers obviously hope Ingram turns into a stud SF. Hart is a decent rotational guard to ease the pain of losing CJ. They could package 24 and 25 to move up to get Khyri Thomas (or whoever), and they get another asset in a 1st rounder next year to include in other trades. I'm not the biggest Ingram fan but he does still have a ton of potential. This also clears the way to have our financial situation looking really good in the summer of 2020.

    Who says no?
     
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    Blazers might.. idk.

    Packers probably would. They have Oladipo? Would they really view CJ as a PG? Why would they trade their young starting center, their starring PG (whos underrated, and might be back contrary to what you believe), and a pick for CJ?
     
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    I was just going off of Simmons trade idea that Indy would want him. If they had CJ they probably don't need Collison. Myles Turner had a really down year and they might just want to get something for him with one year left on his rookie deal.
     
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    Yes, yes and yes. This could help the team next year as I believe Fultz is a better defender out of the gate than CJ. But, it also allows for a reset if things don't work out over the next couple years. You would end up with Collins, Fultz and whoever you take at 10.
     
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    Except LeBron is a free agent sooooo why would he want the 76ers to give up good stuff to get him? If LeBron is leaving why wouldn't the Cavs want Fultz, Saric, and #10?

    It makes no sense.
     
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    Cavs have no leverage...he's a free agent...he'd have to do a sign and trade and that's not necessary...Lebron can just sign wherever he wants.
     
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    Lebron's current contract has an opt in for next year for $35M. Philly basically only has $30M in capspace. So, Lebron can make more money if he works an opt-in and trade than if he simply leaves as a free agent.
     
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    Hence the "good stuff" comment. The 76ers can easily dump Bayless to make the bigger offer possible (hopefully to us).
     
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    I want the result. Cut the Cavs out and deal directly with the Sixers.
     
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    Not interested in discussing it because I'm against it unless we get LeBron James in return. If you can come up with a trade idea where we get James, I'll listen.
     
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    Include it with our 24 And maybe harkless and move up enough in the draft to get into the top five
     
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    Impossible. #24 plus #10 plus Harkless doesn't get you even to #7.
     
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    A team would be pretty dumb to give up a top 5 pick for that package. Is Billy King GM for one of them?
     
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    How about Turner/10/24 for Parsons/4? Any y'all think the Grizz would consider that?

    Combining the first deal, that essentially works out to CJ/Turner/24 for Fultz/Parsons/4.
     
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    Don’t think that’ll happen but I wouldn’t mind. Parsons can sit at the end of the bench with Meyers!
     
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    So you view CJ as the second best player in the league?
     

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