Event AT what point would you consider the US to be over populated.

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  1. MarAzul

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    Oh, I don't think I should answer the question as the answer comes from just how much people are willing to give up to provide for a greater population.
    In my view we have already given up far too much, but perhaps as is normal, I am not even close to the opinion of the majority.

    When there are fish in the rivers again, then we would have room for more people. Reservations for a plethora of things is very difficult to come by now, where once, reservations were not required. The list is long. But I wanted to hear the view of people that do not remember when access was unconstrained, fish for the family could easily be caught, legally.
     
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    unfortunately wild seafood mostly in the Atlantic but some over here is mercury laden...the fishing industry is moving into fish farming big time. Drift netting messed with the oceans marine population big time. Japanese have farmed tuna on their islands for a long time now...temperature controlled environment where they lower the water temp until the tuna goes to sleep...then freeze them and ship them to San Francisco for sashimi...sad that the fish population has been thinned to this point in the wild...sadder that we've polluted their feeding grounds over the centuries...fortunately we've got 23 rainbow trout in the freezer already
     
  3. MarAzul

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    Now you are getting a feel for my question and the reasons for wanting to see the opinions in quantifiable terms. More people is not a feel good thing, we have already over stressed our environment. Our combined demand has exceeded the capacity of many resource.
     
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    In the Yale article I posted though food production more than doubled population increase this year...we've recently had a chain of natural disasters over the last decade that have displaced many people...that always affects the graphs
     
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    You should really consider what your EPA administrator is doing to accelerate stressing of the environment.
    More people is certainly a problem, but so is the behavior of the existing people*.

    *Corporations are people too.

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    If the earth could talk,,,, 10-15 million max.

    That is the "estimate" of the population our country could sustain if we became hunters and gathers again. Anything above 15 million is using up limited natural resouces.

    Of course Origonians would do well as gathers. They are very good mushroom pickers and are leading the world for surviving on hemp products.

    PS to god.
    Read your book. People have been talking about it for years.
     
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    I would not attempt to argue against your statements barf. I do find it perplexing though that progressives support both, more environment protection and a greater population at the same time.

    Very inconsistent in my view.
     
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    I actually support a lesser population...my son got married and bought a house
     
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    Why do people on the left find that odd? I mean it is only closely held corporations that are people too. It seems completely logical to me since in that case you can identify the person or persons associated with the Corporation. Not at all like Boeing, that could not possible have a religious view, due to the plethora of owners?
     
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    Well, uncontrolled immigration is the only way we will proceed counter to you wishes. At least until the Americans change their view and their reproduction track record.
     
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    Progressives do not support increasing the population. Progressives are quite concerned about overpopulation. Not sure where you got that idea.
    It's conservatives that are against birth control, against abortion, pro-having as many kids as you are physically able to have.

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    According to the Supreme Court, all corporations are people. Including Boeing.

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    We are overpopulated with ~12.5 million more people than needed AT LEAST
     
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    Which 12.5M?

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    The illegal ones

    :breakdance::blazerwookie::gasoline::smiley-195517897341
     
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    Need and legal status aren't the same thing. You going to pick the lettuce?

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    Lol keep calm, don’t go Kelly Osbourne on us next.
     
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    Huh? Did you think my response seemed agitated somehow? Or am I supposed to tell you to keep calm too?

    Lol keep calm, don’t go Kelly Osbourne on us next.

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