Politics DNC/WASSERMAN I.T. SPY SCANDAL

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  1. Stevenson

    Stevenson Old School

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    Aside from right wing propaganda @jonnyboy, please tell us why a mainstream news source is not legitimate? How exactly do they contradict each other? What is not legit about the Los Angeles Times or NY Post? About KABC or WABC or NPR or the Washington Post or USA TODAY?

    Take the Post for example. It got and printed the Pentagon Papers. It uncovered Watergate. It has won more Pulitzers than almost any one. Sounds pretty legit, and mainstream, to me.

    So comeon man, I am really interested in your reasoned argument, using actual facts, as to what makes organizations like these illegitimate.

    You can do that, right man? Prove me wrong. Prove you can actually make a coherent argument based on facts.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    One of the great joys in life is a great cup of coffee and the Sunday NY Times.
     
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    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    While mainstream news sites may not blatantly lie regularly, they certainly have no problem with omitting the truth. If being mainstream is the bar you hold that's unfortunate. Considering many alternative news sites, whether they be left or right, are the only sources you can actually get certain news from. Ever heard of Palestinians being given 40 years sentences for rock-throwing? Probably not. How about the genocide that's happening right now in Yemen? If all you take in are mainstream news sources than I doubt you've heard of that either. Mainstream news only reports what is deemed healthy for the public to consume by the 6 or so corporations that own every major news media Outlet, left or right doesn't matter.
     
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  4. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    This is all you need to know about American news. This and Fox being his propaganda machine. Two sides to same coin.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ent-has-fired-a-warning-shot-at-donald-trump/
     
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  5. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I didn't say anything about the legitimacy of MSNBC, just that Fox's commentators (not their news portion) is s pure propaganda machine, significantly worse than MSNBC's.

    These aren't equal.

    It's like saying that Phantom Menace wasn't a good movie but Last Jedi was a mile long steaming pile of shit. That's not saying that PM was the one of the better Star Wars movies, it wasn't. In fact, it was a horrible movie in itself. But that doesn't change the magnitude of just how much worse LJ was. It was a fresh pile of diarrhea.
     
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    There is no conspiracy theory from the depths of Breitbart of Alex Jones, no matter how stupid, improbable, or just plain ridiculous, that Trump won't approvingly tweet. And his tweets then become Holy Writ to his followers. Evidence? That's for losers. We just need Trump!
     
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    A news source is only legit if it tells you want you want to hear.
     
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    Lol “a little”
     
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    some of you all mofo's need to watch this documentary.




    trigger warning: Hillary Clinton is in the preview but it does not feature her.
     
  10. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    It's a big one to avoid if you want the news and not some made up crap.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Yeah, the news.
     
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    What fear of reality is this that you speak of? The reality is that we now have a president that our allies don't respect and seems more involved in being buddy buddy with Putin than those that have long been our allies. Trump is becoming the perfect puppet that Putin has always wanted and trump has taken it hook line and sinker.
     
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  13. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    The news is what you want to avoid if you want to avoid made up crap.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Lemme break it down for all y'all.

    You're not arguing over where to get the news. The news is this. Trump adds tariffs to so and so.


    What you are arguing over is who narrates it more to your liking.

    There is Fox News...Trump today put major pressure on Canada and Mexico by putting tariffs on so and so. Trump is fighting for workers by doing this and we're sure his dick is bigger than average. MAGA

    Then there is CNN...Today Trump applied historically devestating tariffs that are likely to cause job losses in America. He just doesn't understand why you can't just start a trade war when you feel like it....


    Blah blah blah blah blah. The news is not news anymore.
     
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  15. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It may be best to just have our ears and eyes surgically removed so that we are exposed to fewer facts. Then we'll be free to believe whatever we want to believe without contradiction.

    But in the meantime, we can just execute all the journalists and burn the libraries. That would be a good start towards making our lives fact-free.

    I suppose we need to restrict the internet to porn-only use. Getting rid of that other 1% of usage shouldn't be a problem.

    barfo
     
  16. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Yeah, but believe what about what?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Marshmallows create hurricanes. Bedbugs are sentient. Whatever you like.

    barfo
     
  18. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I see the topics on the news while at the gym. They have cnn and fox on. Then I go to youtube and find video of the actual event and start there if it interests me.

    That is how you get the facts. Watching any American mainstream news is misleading.

    Fox shows the part of the video that they like and they leave out the part CNN runs with. CNN does the exact opposite.

    I fear for the future of this country.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    So maybe you shouldn't avoid Fox News if you want contradiction.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Of course further research makes sense. But I note that you are using the news as a starting point, which is what it should be. Of course it isn't the full story, it can't be. But it does serve a useful purpose.

    I don't. The current stupidity will eventually end; a new and different stupidity will take it's place.

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