OT Antarctic ice loss has tripled in a decade. If that continues, we are in serious trouble

So uh, how do we strike a balance between Waterworld and this....

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170328-the-first-people-who-populated-the-americas

 

Thanks, but I know the difference between east and west. But no new info in your link.

The west is losing ice mass.
The east is gaining ice mass, but is about 4 times larger than the west.
So the net is an ice mass gain, not lose.

The op article does not combine the two areas. It only talks about the areas losing ice. The NASA study does combine the two areas to get the net result.

 

Will you, or someone, post a link to this article.
Google:
Global warming? NASA says antarctic has been cooling for past six years.

 

The Antarctic is melting.

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/20100108_Is_Antarctica_Melting.html
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/07/antarctica-sea-level-rise-climate-change/

Look no further than the rise in sea levels for absolute proof that the overall ice in the world is melting. There you go, proof positive.

 

brianfromwashington did post the link on page one...here it is you have to read the whole article to get to the part I referenced

 

Funny, my NASA article came to a different conclusion.

 

There's a difference eastern and western Antarctic stats...also a difference between ice sheets, ice shelves and snow pack ...snow making it higher in elevation, melting making the coastlines shrink...the article said 20 - 30 years before lost ice takes over and snowfall will not be able to reproduce it fast enough to balance out...the stats look different if you're looking at 2014 say instead of 2018....last couple years snowfall has doubled, ice shelves have shrunken

 

That huge ice shelf broke off recently. That was a part of antarctica.

 

I don't use air conditioning and I don't fly private

#virtuesignaling #orpoor

 

My guess at the reason for the contradictory reports coming out of NASA is politics.

After Obama appointed several new high managers at NASA, there was a lot of old studies shelved, and new ones generated.

The new high managers are very anti pretty much everything. One was even on the board of directors of the Packard Foundation. The Packard foundation has been funding anti campaigns for decades. From starting the spotted owl lie, to anti fishing and hunting campaigns.

The packard foundation has been very active generating their own new interpretation of the science behind global warming.

 

The spotted owl thing was no lie. I have explained this numerous times.

There is a mushroom that wraps around trees in old growth forests. When the mushroom gets wet in the rainy season it soaks up the water and the tree roots have moisture even when it's dry. The mushroom has shoots or buttons that we pick when they are from edible varieties. The mushroom is eaten by a small mouse. The spores are impervious to the acid in the stomach of the mouse. The spotted owl eats the mouse. The spotted owl flies around the forest dropping it's feces here and there thereby spreading the mushroom far and wide.

It's important that we maintain every species because we don't know the full implications of eliminating any species.

 

So the mouse diet is what makes the spotted owls taste soooo good. I thought it was the McDonalds hamburgers they eat.

 

The Earth's crust rotates around its liquid core, like a ball inside a completely enclosed socket. The magnetic fields, which are the sole influence of the planet's polarity, are a product of the stationary core. The result is the North and South poles seemingly sliding around beneath out feet every few hundred thousand years. When water is melting in front of you it is simultaneously freezing behind you. Unless of course the cold spot (pole) lies predominantly on land, in which case yes, sea levels will rise (like they did 10,000 years ago). But don't worry, they will lower again when, you guessed it, the poles lie predominantly on water which will freeze. In fact, when this happens the sea levels will actually be lower than any of you or your ancestors have ever witnessed. This is all currently happening at a pace that is too slow for our impatient human brains to comprehend logically. That's why we have different studies suggesting two polar opposite (No pun intended) outcomes. Look at a spot where the pole is sliding away and you will see warming. Look at a spot where the pole is approaching and you will see cooling. And mixed in between you will see a bunch of unfamiliar weather because the magnetic field under your feet is slowly migrating.

The poles are shifting is what I'm trying to say.

I find it interesting that people who are supposedly so interested in science seem to ignore this process that is more deeply engrained in our planet's existence than humans themselves. The effect man has on the earths climate is miniscule in comparison to these cataclysms. The fact that we claim credit for them is laughable. I'm sure the effect we have on this planet is mostly negative, because we are generally an asshole species, but I just don't think we are as influential on the earth as we think we are. An annoyance at best.

 

Species were going extinct daily when we were still living in caves. It is not the responsibility of man to preserve species. It is only our responsibility to conserve them at a rate that is natural. If a species demise is inexplicable then we have no right to step in. When one door closes another opens.

 

Also, it takes about 7000 years for the magnetic poles to reverse. Take that very slow rate into account. Highly unlikely that these current polar changes are a result of pole reversal.

 

Old growth trees, mushrooms and mice had nothing to do with the decline of the spotted owl population. But a very entertaining story.

The real reason, because they taste soooo good.

I have never tasted spotted owl. But the great horned owls and red tail hawks love to munch on them. Plus the many ravens eat the eggs.

So it was a natural cycle of a booming predator population causing the population of their prey to bust.

 

Yes, the post do shift...completely. 180 degrees. South is North and North is South (magnetically speaking). They've done it hundreds of times in the history of the planet that we know of. Sometimes they don't do a complete swap they just move a little then snap back into place. This is called an Excursion, the last one happened 40,000 years ago. Not sure where you're getting your information from, but it's wrong.