OT Trump Salutes North Korean General

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  1. CupWizier

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    I bet your dog shows you that sign a lot. :biglaugh:
     
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    So you condone lies, manipulation and running a false foundation? Are you happy that Trump and his trumpets are taking almost 3 trillion from social security? When do you retire? Might not be any money there. But that's okay right?
     
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    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    The President of the United States does not salute generals from countries that we are still at war with.

    The President of the United States can use a customary greeting to the leader of an ally.

    This is all well known and standard protocol.

    Retired Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton, in a statement for the veterans-focused advocacy group VoteVets.org, called Trump’s salute “wholly inappropriate."

    The Trump administration must talk with North Korea, he said, "for the sake of avoiding a disastrous war. But they have not earned the salute of a president.”

    “There's a protocol for military salutes," tweeted Mieke Eoyang, a former intelligence-focused Hill staffer, who's now with the center-left think tank Third Way. "They're given to friendly foreign militaries. But w/DPRK, we are still in a state of war, so a salute is improper,” she added, referencing Pyongyang's preferred name for North Korea, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
     
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  5. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Oh calm your tits. Firstly, EVERYONE from BOTH sides of the isle takes Social Security, not just "Trumpets" (he appreciates your support, by the way) so grow up.

    Secondly, I can't take you seriously while you refuse to acknowledge the corruption from Democrats; corruption that's SO BAD that they kept Bernie Sanders from getting the nomination. JUST ONCE, I want to hear a Leftist acknowledge that. And the media bias. And the fact that Hillary was the worst candidate in the history of this country. And the fact that Obama didn't do ANYTHING to better this country, and set race relations back 50 years.

    Until you do that, then your words about Trump are meaningless. I've been completely unbiased about Trump from day one. It's time for Leftists to do the same with their own party.

    And thirdly, Democrats have been bitching and moaning about this bullshit for DECADES, and we're still fine. Social Security isn't going anywhere, and Trump isn't going to kidnap you and hook your nipples up to a car battery.

    You're obsessed with Trump. We get it. Do yourself a favor: turn off the TV, stop watching the news, and take that pussy hat off. Go back to harassing private businesses over baking a cake and bathroom laws, instead of obsessing about Trump.
     
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    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    Sly, trump is very unaware of a lot of standard protocols when it comes to being president so throw that one out the window. Either way I don’t know what people want us to do. Continue to be enemies with North Korea or just be like hey you do you but we are cool. I prefer the second option.
     
  7. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Thank you. The man is a New York business man who's never been a politician.

    At least he has an excuse. What was Obama's and Bush's excuses?
     
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    I'm fine with NK using Trump's refusal to learn basic protocol as propaganda. Don't have a problem with it.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Ignorance and incompetence is an excuse now?

    barfo
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    The White House has ALWAYS had both of those things. Get over it.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    There's a difference between a little and a lot of something. Get over it yourself.

    barfo
     
  12. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Well, the past 15 years has had a LOT of it. I don't hear you bitching about that.

    Let me guess....Trump gets 2 scoops, and that's worth a headline to you, huh?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Your 'whataboutism' is pretty severe. And in this case, inaccurate as well.

    It's ok for people to evaluate Trump on his own merits, or lack thereof.

    If Obama strangled 100 people, that doesn't mean Trump isn't a murderer if he only strangles 99.

    barfo
     
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  14. Jade Falcon

    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    Try being objective instead of emotional. Because....

    ....is inaccurate, petty, and said out of spite. That statement is about YOU, not Trump. YOU said that to make YOURSELF feel better. You don't actually give a shit about the presidency of this country; just about your own "gotcha" bullshit.

    So let's try that, barfo. Show me that you are actually capable of being rational and objective here. Because so far, I've seen NOTHING but CONSTANT bullshit from Leftists on this forum: everything from Trump's hand size, to how many scoops of ice cream he has. And then the same fucking morons stomp their feet and wonder why he wins elections.

    Tell me ONE POSITIVE thing....without sarcasm, without fallacy....that you agree with him about. A policy, a law, a bill, an act of his administration even.

    ONE thing. No half-assed answers, no sarcasm.....one POSITIVE thing.

    What is it?

    If you can answer that, then we can have a discussion, a rational discussion, about why saluting protocol with foreign military leaders should be the LAST thing on everyone's mind right now.
     
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    Trump says parents of dead Korean War soldiers asked him to ‘bring their sons home’ (Parents of Korean War soldiers are dead)

    In his first interview with Donald Trump since he became president, Fox News anchor Bret Baier asked him about his historic summit with North Korea’s Kim Kong Un, and Trump didn’t fail to make a mess of it.

    In one segment of the interview, Baier reminds Trump that Kim is a vicious “killer” dictator who “executes people.”

    But according to Trump, the nightmarish horrors of North Korea should be taken in stride.

    “He’s a tough guy,” Trump said speaking of Kim, who has one of the world’s worst human rights records.

    “When you take over a tough country, tough people, and take over from your father – I don’t care who you are, what you are, how much of an advantage you have,” Trump continued. “If you can do that at 27 years old, that’s one in 10,000 who can do that. He’s a very smart guy, a great negotiator. But I think we understand each other.”

    But Baier didn’t let it go, again tenderly reminding Trump that Kim has “done some really bad things.”

    “Yeah, but so have a lot of other people done some really bad things,” Trump countered. “I could go through a lot of nations where a lot of bad things were done.”

    The comment echoed a sentiment Trump shared back in 2017 during an interview with then-Fox News host Bill O’Reilly. When asked about Putin’s alleged assassinations of adversarial journalists, Trump brushed it off by saying, “There are a lot of killers … You think our country is so innocent?”

    After vaguely answering Baier’s question about his “agreement” with Kim, Trump threw in this little unforced error:


    “…the soldiers that died in Korea, their remains are gonna be coming back home. And we have thousands of people who’ve asked for that. Thousands and thousands of people,” Trump said. “So many people asked when I was on the campaign. I’d say, ‘Wait a minute, I don’t have any relationship’ — and they’d say, ‘When you can, President, we’d love our son to be brought back home.”

    The comment caught the attention of a few people, including Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo who pointed out that if there were such a parent out there, they would probably be around 110-120 years old.

    http://deadstate.org/trump-says-par...home-parents-of-korean-war-soldiers-are-dead/
     
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    Here's one who's said it many times and you can even hear it on youtube
    bernie sanders.png
     
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    Jade Falcon Just to piss you off.

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    You're right, to a point.

    It's a shame more of you can't be like him.
     
  18. barfo

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    I think you should stick to whataboutism, if your only other choice is amateur psychoanalysis.

    For someone who wants objectivity, you don't seem interested in practicing it yourself.

    I'm not sure why you would assume there is something I agree with him about? I'm sure there must be some minor thing that he hasn't completely screwed the pooch on, yet.

    And for the record, saluting or not saluting is a non-issue in my book, it's just yet another example of how unfit he is for the job. If that was his only mistake, he'd be the greatest president ever.

    And yes, he is objectively ignorant and incompetent.

    barfo
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Oh come on, Obama would have been crucified if he had done that.
     
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