Grade The Pick: Anfernee Simons (24th Overall)

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What Grade Would You Give The 24th Pick (Anfernee Simons)

  1. A

    20.6%
  2. A-

    7.4%
  3. B+

    17.6%
  4. B

    14.7%
  5. B-

    10.3%
  6. C+

    5.9%
  7. C

    13.2%
  8. C-

    1.5%
  9. D

    5.9%
  10. F

    2.9%
  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    1.) No. No team is looking to trade a good vet for an okay get and a draft pick. Teams are in all or nothing mode. If there was, you would've seen an NBA player get traded...
    2.) Yeah, we can do so much more with that $2M even though were a luxury tax team. Quit reaching.
    3.) You don't need PT to develop.
    4.) Simons will never be ready for PG? How do you know that? He's moldable, and he has the ball skills and quickness to do it. He's 19. CJ came in at 22. Trent can still play SF. By having CJ play backup PG, there's 25mpg available at backup SG. There's certainly a ton of minutes available at SF as well.

    You're reaching hard.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    My no-step standing reach is higher than your maximum running vertical leap.
     
  3. Blazers Roy

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    Guys, i didn't read the whole thread. I watched some of his clips..I understand he didn't play in college.

    Can someone tell me how is he different from that whole Montero experiment? How can we know he can compete against high level players?
     
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  4. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    That's what a delusional man would say.
     
  5. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Have you watched his tapes? Simons is obviously better.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    As I wrote in another thread, a high schooler will have enough problems without being undersized. A guard will have the most difficulty. Our 3 were Telfair, Webster, and Montero. 2 of those had size, and still couldn't cut it. Now we have this 6-3 SG. It will take longer than the 4-year college player McCollum, and he took 3 years until he stopped looking like an idiot (remember the threads criticizing McCollum till he got it together?). And if you want Simons to also learn PG, add at least a year to that.

    Then he changes teams at the end of his contract, and our coaches did all that work for nothing. Just as Lillard's old man injuries start kicking in. Then we all start dying of old age, and we're cussing out BonesJones for ruining our lives.
     
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  7. Blazers Roy

    Blazers Roy Well-Known Member

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    I think i'm now old enough and wise enough to say that i can't conclude anything from 'tapes' if it's not against high level players.

    I can't count how many guys i saw beastin' against HS players\trainers and then they looked like ass in the NBA.

    What did you like about him? what sets him apart in your opinion?
     
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    And also: i don't follow college dudes too much, but why the hell we didnt pick Robert Williams? he looks like a guy who could compensate for our back-court defense + be a good Ed Davis insurance.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    He supposedly has a bad work ethic. It didn't help the perception when he overslept his introductory meeting with the Celtics after being drafted. True story. Can't make that shit up.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Luis Montero?

    Well, Montero was an extremely raw undrafted Community College player with nothing going for him but athleticism.

    Simons is an extremely quick and polished for his age PG/SG who was rated as a five-star recruit and ranked as the 7th best player in the 2018 high school class. He was recruited by and signed with the University of Louisville. Rick Pitino said he was the best guard he'd recruited in 15 years. And he can handle the ball and shoot.

    For starters.

    :cheers:
     
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    Wanna understand the pick? Philly GM explains it. Like them, we are "star hunting":
     
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    When it comes to two 19 year olds noted for 3 pt shooting...you're getting a rookie Wes Mathews and Mo Williams...essentially a 2 guard and a 6th man...they replace Connaughton and Napier eventually, not Lillard and McCollum...and development happens outside the regular season games...Swanigan played a lot of G league ball as did Baldwin last season...Collins didn't.....G league helped...now what we need is our own G league team..I like that we can have players on two way contracts now...what happened to Wilcox though?...nobody talks about him anymore
     
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    No shit? I gotta see the story on this--got a link?
     
  15. BonesJones

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    How does he leave at the end of his contract....?have you ever heard of restricted free agency?

    Keep making up more false narratives.
     
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    Since Batum and Aldridge left 3 long years ago, we have desperately needed a starting small forward. People defend Olshey's new guard draftees as better than other guards available, but we don't need guards. Bob Whitsitt would have traded these cheapo picks and one of our superfluous mediocre starting forwards for a starting SF. And he would have done it years ago, as soon as possible after obtaining them. (cheapo picks + Vonleh, Harkless, Aminu, and/or Davis for a real starter, not subs like them.)

    So when you post that these 2 new guys were the best guards available, your posts are irrelevant to what the Blazers need, a SF to give scoring balance to our guards (good shooter/dribbler/inside game, but maybe short; 6-6 is okay).

    Ever seen a graph of "diminishing results?"

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    Olshey could get 18 more redundantly good guards, and it would add about 1% to the offense. A real SF would improve the offense 100%. But Olshey lacks the talent to trade, so he's stuck. Also, he's too dumb to value either forwards, or defense.
     
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    They're gonna trade for Kawhi.

    Mark my words.

    That MIA pick is valuable.
     
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    Philly is serious! I wonder if they strike out on Lebron, Leonard, and PG, do they come after CJ?

    Didn't they have interest in him before?
     
  19. BonesJones

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    The logic you use parallels the people that say that people in poverty should just go make more money because other people make more money. Or that they should trade their rags for a Lamborghini.

    There's nothing on the market. You sit here and say "tRaDe fOr A sMaLL FoRWaRd!!!" while describing a skillset very few SFs have, but cant even list a SF that would fit that mold that would ACTUALLY BE AVAILABLE for the minimal package you suggest. The draft isn't the ONLY DAY he can trade either and the talent in this draft was much better than next years, soit makes sense to trade next years pick, since it should be less valuable to us but will have more trade market value due to it not being locked in at 24.

    You realize a 3rd guard in our lineup has 35 available minutes? Compare that to a starting SF, and it's close, so your stats are made up BS.

    You're literally complaining about a hypothetical that likely wasn't possible on draft night but could be much more possible in the next two weeks as if it was 100% possible and draft night was the only time it was.... It's silly at best.
     
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    They might.

    I thunk they'll offer the best package though. Saric, Fultz, Covington, and future picks including the MIA one. Then they sign LeBron. BOOM. Superteam.
     

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