Kawhi wants out of SA

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Nothing more than speculation there. Comparing their performance last year, you'd be hard-pressed to find a metric showing George to be a better player. Total win shares, perhaps--otherwise everything's in Oladipo's favor. Even if you compare to George's best season (probably 2015-16), Oladipo is comparable. Removing biases from the analysis, they're actually very comparable.
     
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    It's actually the other way around after seeing their performances in the playoffs. PG fell in love with his streaky 3-point shot, while Oladipo was in full attack mode.
     
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    Send him East unless you get both Ingram and Kuzma. The price the Lakers have to pay for a super team needs to be them mortgaging their future for a short term window before LeBron is washed.
     
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    You don't honestly believe that, do you? George's overall impact on the game is so far beyond Oladipo's, it's not even funny. Swap George back onto Indiana in Oladipo's place and you've got a team challenging for the East title.

    Oladipo's rebounding and assist numbers were good in the playoffs, but his shooting numbers where down.
     
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    Before last season I would have agreed with you. I did watch a couple of OKC games last year and still can't figure out why George was so anemic there.
     
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    It is interesting that Indiana got better by losing their 28 ppg scorer from the year before and OKC got worse by adding him.
    Or should I say Indiana got better by adding Oladipo and OKC got worse by losing him?

    Maybe the rumors are true about PG. Not a good locker room guy. I listened to a Lakers talk show on a drive home last summer when they were contemplating trading for him. This is while he was still a Pacer. Surprised that many Lakers fans who called in were leery about him. Maybe the local boys knew something...
     
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    Trade rumor.
    Kawhi to Philly for
    Saric, Covington, & first.
     
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    There are too many moving parts for that head-to-head comparison to be valid.

    Sabonis was a great addition to Indiana.

    Melo was a terrible addition to OKC and left them with no depth.

    Even so, OKC and Indiana had the exact same record, despite Indiana having the softer schedule. Take George and Oladipo off each team, and which roster would you rather have as a starting point?
     
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    Portland offering up CJ and scraps.
     
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    Find it hard to believe that anyone would have a better offer. Maybe Phoenix? If they include Josh Jackson in there that could be better than most offers Lakers could put together (unless they want to package multiple young talents).
     
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    I think a lot of teams if they wanted to, could come up with a better offer than the Lakers.
     
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    I called this.
     
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    Depends on if that team wants to take on some salary dumps like Gasol and Aldridge, or Danny Green along with Leonard.
     
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    Yeah but that would include trading some assets that are considered untradeable right now - like Towns, Booker etc.
     
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    Who can take on those salaries without sending salaries back, basically using the cap space? Dallas, Sacramento, maybe Phoenix and I think that’s all.
     
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    We can absorb Green into our TPE.

    Green for TPE
    CJ/Collins for Leonard

    Need to find a way to take back like 2-3 mil more back from SA to make that work.

    That's a damn good package. And I wouldn't do it without confirming Kawhi's medicals or getting a commitment on 2019 FA.
     
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    Boston and Philadelphia can easily blow any deal for Kawhi out of the water. I think that Boston have already put themselves out of this race though, Ainge thought he could have got another bargain like with Kyrie but it has become clear that it’s not going to happen.
     

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