Irresponsible gun owners. This is why more strict laws need to be implemented. I have no issues with responsible gun owners. It's the gun owners who take their gun to a bar when you're going to get hammered. It's the gun owners who let children get a hold of their guns. It's the gun owners who'll do anything for a quick buck.
you forgot gun owners who get really filled with rage at the wife, family, coworkers, political party, teacher, preacher, etc.....or want to make a splash with cop assisted suicide...
You don't need a gun to do that. Hell, the last few that come to memory involved a knife. Remember the guy who got shot in the homeless shelter?
For those that don't you don't have to pay attention... Enjoy the privilege of not having to care. Man killed by Portland State police was Navy vet trying to break up fight, friends say A Portland man fatally shot early Friday outside a sports bar near Portland State University by campus police officers was a U.S. postal worker and father of three daughters who served in the Navy and married his high school sweetheart, friends say. They identified the man as Jason E. Washington, 45. Friend Alyssa LeCesne said Washington was also a grandfather to a 5-year-old girl who "hero worshipped the ground he walked on." She described him as a Franklin High School graduate and an upstanding man who was proud to have helped raise a household full of women. Washington and his family came back from a trip to Mexico earlier this week, she said. "There are a lot of people in Portland grieving right now," LeCesne said. Police have not yet released Washington's name, nor any details of the circumstances that led to his death. Two Portland State University police officers have been placed on paid administrative leave after at least one of them opened fire near The Cheerful Tortoise along Southwest Sixth Avenue around 1:30 a.m. The officers have been identified as Officer Shawn McKenzie, who has been with the campus public safety office since 2002, and Officer James Dewey, who's been there since 2014. Both became armed sworn officers in 2016. The school's board of trustees voted to allow their campus officers to carry firearms two years earlier. McKenzie and Dewey were near the bar at 1939 S.W. Sixth Avenue around 1:30 a.m. when they noticed a fight, Portland police said. At some point, at least one of the officers shot a man who was at the scene. LeCesne and Mike Joseph, another friend and former co-worker of Washington's, said Washington wasn't involved in the fight and was trying to break it up. A witness also told Oregon Public Broadcasting that the man wasn't fighting and was shot after a holstered handgun he was carrying fell onto the ground and he appeared to be trying to pick it up. After the officers yelled that there was a gun, there was no apparent hesitation before the gunfire, the witness said. The fight started because one man used racial slurs when speaking to another man, said the witness, who provided video of the altercation leading up to the shots being fired. Mike Joseph, another friend and former co-worker of Washington's, said Washington was at the bar with friends, celebrating the Oregon State University baseball team winning the College World Series. He had a concealed carry permit for his handgun, Joseph said. "I saw the video, and there is no way he should have been shot," Joseph said. "I wish he didn't have a gun on him, because this probably wouldn't have happened if he didn't." Joseph said Washington was well-liked and everyone he's spoken to about the shooting is furious about his death, "especially after seeing the video." "It's just a really unfortunate situation," said Donald Dietz, 25, an employee at the Cheerful Tortoise who witnessed the shooting. He had asked a co-worker to call the police when he saw a conflict inside the bar escalate and move outside. He was only a few feet away when the man was shot. "The unfortunate situation is he was trying to help and break things up," Dietz said of the man who was shot. Dietz recalled the man reaching for his gun after police told him three or four times not to. "They warned him multiple times not to reach for it, but he did," Dietz said. "I don't want the message out there that the cops were trigger-happy." Dietz said employees at the Cheerful Tortoise did everything they could to stop the situation from escalating like it did. "It's just that people got drunk and stubborn," he added. "They had to do it," he said of the officers involved. "People think they were overzealous, but they had to do it." Portland State University President Rahman Shoureshi said he's asked the campus public safety chief to have an internal review of the shooting, as well as the school's policy and procedures. "Campus safety is our top priority at PSU," Shoureshi said in a statement. "As you know, we are an urban campus, and that presents challenges." He said the school tries to provide a "safe and welcoming" environment on campus. The Portland Police Bureau is investigating the shooting. The Portland State University Student Union said it was mourning the death of the man shot by police and noted the arming of campus officers occurred amid opposition from students. The group said Friday that it will continue to push for campus police to not carry guns.
Sorry to hear about your friend and the loss to his family. RIP With that said, alcohol and fights do not mix well. I've been to bars and taverns. I understand it can get rowdy, but I always remind myself I'm going there for a good time. If somebody is getting out of control then let the employees, manager, owner know about the situation so they can ask the aggressor to leave. I try to avoid fights like this at all cost. I've been in a similar situation where a guy pulled a knife on me when he knew he wasn't going to win the fight. It can get out of control very quickly especially when alcohol is involved.
this has nothing at all to do with my post....I'm fed up with gun violence in my country. Knife violence hasn't been such an issue in my experience but hey...all kinds of violence is out there....cops don't usually knife people either
Everytown is committed to using the most comprehensive, up-to-date sources of data to measure America’s unprecedented levels of gun violence. Learn more by exploring the stats below. Here's some states for the last year in the US and comparisons Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) show that on an average day, 96 Americans are killed with guns. To calculate this, Everytown relies on a five-year-average of data from the CDC, whose National Vital Statistics System contains the most comprehensive national data, currently available through 2016.1 View CDC data on people killed by guns each year[/paste:font] .styled-table table, .styled-table th, .styled-table td, .styled-table tbody, .styled-table thead {border-color:#fff; border-width:3px} Homicide2 Suicide Unintentional Undetermined Intent All gun deaths 2012 12,093 20,666 548 256 33,563 2013 11,675 21,175 505 281 33,636 2014 11,472 21,386 461 275 33,594 2015 13,463 22,018 489 282 36,252 2016 14,925 22,938 495 300 38,658 Annual Average 12,726 21,637 500 279 35,141 Daily Average 35 59 1.4 0.8 96 On average there are nearly 13,000 gun homicides a year in the U.S. View annual gun homicides in the US[/paste:font] .styled-table table, .styled-table th, .styled-table td, .styled-table tbody, .styled-table thead {border-color:#fff; border-width:3px} Homicide Suicide Unintentional Undetermined Intent All gun deaths 2012 12,093 20,666 548 256 33,563 2013 11,675 21,175 505 281 33,636 2014 11,472 21,386 461 275 33,594 2015 13,463 22,018 489 282 36,252 2016 14,925 22,938 495 300 38,658 Annual Average 12,726 21,637 500 279 35,141 Daily Average 35 59 1.4 0.8 96 For every one person killed with guns, two more are injured. The number of Americans injured with firearms dwarfs the number who are killed, although data to measure non-fatal shootings are less reliable. The CDC’s National Electronic Injury Surveillance System estimates the number of annual non-fatal firearm injuries based on reports from a sample of hospital emergency departments: over the last five years, there were more than 200 non-fatal firearm injuries each day.3 View data on non-fatal firearm injuries[/paste:font] .styled-table table, .styled-table th, .styled-table td {padding:.75em 8px;}, .styled-table tbody, .styled-table thead {border-color:#fff; border-width:3px} Year Non-Fatal Firearm Injuries 2011 73,883 2012 81,396 2013 84,258 2014 81,034 2015 84,997 Annual Average 81,114 Daily Average 222 Nearly two-thirds (62 percent) of firearm deaths in the U.S. are suicides. Of the 175,703 firearm deaths in the US from 2012 to 2016 (the most recent five years of data available), 108,183 (or 62 percent) were suicides. To calculate this total, Everytown relies on CDC data regarding fatal injury by intent.4 View more information about firearm fatalities by intent in the US[/paste:font] Seven children and teens (age 19 or under) are killed with guns in the U.S. on an average day. Rates of firearm injury death increase rapidly after age 12. And unintentional shootings of children and teens are underreported in the CDC data, possibly because of the difficulty of characterizing a child’s intent after he or she has killed himself or a playmate with a firearm. Everytown tracks unintentional shootings involving children, which occur every 34 hours, on average. 5 View CDC data on children and teens killed with guns[/paste:font] .styled-table table, .styled-table th, .styled-table td, .styled-table tbody, .styled-table thead {border-color:#fff; border-width:3px} Firearm Homicides Total Firearm Deaths 2012 1,700 2,694 2013 1,430 2,465 2014 1,488 2,548 2015 1,670 2,824 2016 1,876 3,155 Total 8,164 13,686 In an average month, 50 women are shot to death by intimate partners in the U.S. And more than half of all women killed by intimate partners in the U.S. are killed with guns.6 View data on gun homicides of women by a current or former intimate partner[/paste:font] Year FBI Supplementary Homicide Reports Florida Department of Law Enforcement Total 2010 611 48 659 2011 553 61 614 2012 529 57 586 2013 518 41 559 2014 541 37 578 Total 2,752 244 2,996 Annual Average 550 49 599 Monthly Average 46 4 50 America’s gun homicide rate is more than 25 times the average of other high-income countries. An analysis of gun homicide rates in developed countries— those considered “high-income” by the World Bank — found that the United States accounted for 46 percent of the population but 82 percent of the gun deaths.7 View more on how the US gun homicide rate compares with that of other developed countries[/paste:font] Background checks are a central component of America's efforts to keep guns from criminals: since their inception, they have blocked over 3 million gun sales to prohibited purchasers. According to a study by the Department of Justice, between 1994 and 2014, federal, state, and local agencies conducted background checks on more than 180 million firearm applications and denied 2.82 million gun sales to prohibited purchasers. To date, the background check system has blocked over 3 million firearm sales to prohibited purchasers.8 Black men are 13 times more likely than non-hispanic white men to be shot and killed with guns. Black Americans make up 14 percent of the U.S. population9 but are victims of more than half of all gun homicides.10 View more on gun homicides and race in America[/paste:font] Note: This figure has been calculated using 2012-2016 data and shows age-adjusted gun homicide rates for non-Hispanic white and non-Hispanic black men. When a gun is present in a situation of domestic violence, it increases the risk the woman will be killed fivefold. A case-control study of 11 cities found that in a domestic violence situation, the perpetrator’s access to a gun increased the odds of femicide by more than five times (adjust OR=5.44, 95% CI = 2.89, 10.22).11 Note on Data Sources Both the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the FBI collect data on firearm homicides — the former from medical examiners and the latter from local law enforcement. Each data set has distinct advantages and flaws. The CDC’s National Vital Statistics System records a higher percentage of all firearm deaths but fails to capture details about their circumstances, including the relationship of the perpetrator to the victim. This makes it unsuitable for measuring gun violence between people of certain relationships. In contrast, the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports (SHR) include details on the perpetrator and weapon but are more likely to be missing records because the FBI relies on police departments to voluntarily submit their homicide data on an annual basis. Despite these gaps, SHR data are utilized widely in the criminology community. The SHR do not include data from the state of Florida. Everytown obtained data directly from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Women killed by former dating partners (as opposed to current dating partners) are not categorized in the Florida data and are not included.12 Notes "Fatal Injury Reports," Injury Prevention & Control: Data & Statistics (WISQARS), accessed December 23, 2017 ']http://1.usa.gov/1plXBux'] Homicides include: assault by handgun discharge, assault by rifle, shotgun and larger firearm discharge, assault by other unspecified firearm discharge, terrorism involving firearms, and legal intervention involving firearm discharge. "Non-Fatal Injury Reports," Injury Prevention & Control: Data & Statistics (WISQARS), accessed December 23, 2017 http://1.usa.gov/1qo12RL. "Fatal Injury Reports," Injury Prevention & Control: Data & Statistics (WISQARS), accessed December 23, 2017 http://1.usa.gov/1qo12RL. "Fatal Injury Reports," Injury Prevention & Control: Data & Statistics (WISQARS), accessed December 23, 2017 ']http://1.usa.gov/1plXBux'] Federal Bureau of Investigation, Supplementary Homicide Reports, 2010-14, available at http://bit.ly/1yVxm4K. Over the last five years of available data, 55% of women killed by intimate partners (including same-sex partners) were killed with guns. Erin Grinshteyn and David Hemenway, "Violent Death Rates: The US Compared with Other High-income OECD Countries, 2010," American Journal of Medicine, 2015. The World Bank defines a high-income country as one with a gross national income per capita greater than $12,736. The study analyzed data from populous (>1 million inhabitants), high-income countries that were members of the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) in 2010. Additionally, the study excluded Iceland and Luxembourg from the broader OECD for having very small populations, and also excluded Greece and Switzerland for not using detailed ICD-10 codes. Karberg JC, Frandsen RJ, Durso JM, et al. "Background Checks for Firearm Transfers, 2013-2014." Bureau of Justice Statistics. http://bit.ly/2lSEIEu. Published June 2016. Accessed February 15, 2017. Data for 2015 and 2016 were obtained by Everytown from the FBI directly. Though majority of the transactions and denials reported by FBI and BJS are associated with a firearm sale or transfer, a small number may be for concealed carry permits and other reasons not related to a sale or transfer. U.S. Census Bureau. 2010. http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-06.pdf “Fatal Injury Reports," Injury Prevention & Control: Data & Statistics (WISQARS), accessed December 23, 2017, http://1.usa.gov/1plXBux. Jacqueline C. Campbell, Daniel Webster, and Jane Koziol-McLain, "Risk Factors for Femicide in Abusive Relationships: Results from a Multisite Case Control Study," American Journal of Public Health 93, no. 7 (June 2003): http://1.usa.gov/1osjCet. James Alan Fox, “Missing Data Problems in the SHR: Imputing Offender and Relationship Characteristics,” Homicide Studies 8, no. 214 (2004); and Catherine Barber and David Hemenway, “Underestimates of Unintentional Firearm Fatalities: Comparing Supplementary Homicide Report Data with the National Vital Statistics System,” Injury Prevention 8 (2002). 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Hobbes and I have tipped a beer or two in a tavern. You are exactly the kind of guy who a person such as myself would really enjoy having a mixed drink or beer with. Here's a cheers to you, Hobbes.
Is that where it happened? I first went there in 1969. A very popular place for the local PSU students. I too, have a PSU degree. Still consider myself a Beaver because that's where I got my first degree. So, I guess I'm a Beaver and a Viking. Also have a diploma from PCC. I have no idea what they call themselves for short. Look, I even refer to them as 'they'.
