What to do at SF (post-TPE)

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  1. riverman

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    You rebound a ball in the paint...nothing to do with defense...has to do with guys swipin' at the ball....I've said this already...my pt was ball possession and turnovers...not offense and defense....I said he's guarding bigger guys and crashin' the boards...a rebound is either a defensive one or offensive one...Chief is first and foremost a defensive player...the ripcity2 3 on 3 games if you watch your film see how many balls get swiped in the paint...more than bad passes or getting picked off dribbling....this topic I've already talked to death but you're welcome to define it however. You rebound you have the ball either way..Chief gets a lot of rebounds
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    He's a better shooter than you give him credit for, he's an excellent slasher/finisher, he's a good rebounder, he IS in fact a good (even if not great) and versatile defensive player, and as @KingSpeed loves to point out, he always seems to step up in the playoffs. No doubt he has weaknesses, but to simply say he's not a good basketball player seems very myopic to me.
     
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    He's a great defender that can guard 4 positions. How do you come to this conclusion without watching games?
     
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    River you dont have to be so defensive man. Its almost like it seems no one can ask question for further info or even disagree or point something out without you taking it personal ir getting frustrated with the disagreement or somehing.
    Thai is a forum. It can be used for debating thoughts ideas and opinions man.

    Now that you have explained yourself further i understand what you mean, Though i dont necessarily agree.
    I think he is the one in the paint swiping rebounds from the other guys because they are taller. But either way i dont see many turnovers from Aminu while rebounding in the paint.
    Maybe i missed some.
     
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    This bothers me. A lot. The post and the sentiment. Chief is integral to what we do; he brings those intangibles, especially on defense, most guys are incapable or unwilling to contribute. Chief gives no fucks about anything but the team. "Are you blind?" Fuck that.
     
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    I feel like Chief has gotten better too. I think in my dream line up he plays the 3, but I firmly believe Aminu is a solid Role player on a good contract, who isn’t high maintenance, does what they ask him to do. I know I said Inhate when he dribbles - he’s gotten better (still hard to watch), but he’s effective. No one mentions it but his playoff stats were actually good.
     
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    “this topic I've already talked to death but you're welcome to define it however”

    Its just comments like this that make it feel like once you say something no one can comment on it or ask for clarification. Not just this post or this thread.
    Just my observation. Take it for what you will.
    :cheers:
     
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  8. riverman

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    beating a horse.jpg
     
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    Seriously? Haha.

    You give personal feedback more than anyone.
     
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    That's because people weren't guarding the perimeter, the refs had a very loose whistle, and there was less passing because there were 3 people instead of 5.
     
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    FWIW:

    Bad Pass Turnovers Per 36 Minutes:
    Amimu: 0.59
    Harkless: 0.40

    Bad Pass As a % of Turnovers:
    Aminu: 43%
    Harkless: 35%
     
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    Small forward is the only position where he's a net positive.

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    It's not about logic, it's about b4f getting his feelings out there :)
     
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    history repeating itself again?
     
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    Chief is a solid role player. Another versatile player who is needed off the bench. The problem is opposing teams will live and die by leaving him wide open and encouraging him to either shoot or put the ball on the floor. His 3 pt stats are misleading IMO. They just don't cover him. I really wish someone else would step up at PF spot allowing Chief to focus on a role better suited for him.....defensive stopper with an "occasional" 3pt attempt. Unfortunately Terry encourages him to be more than that.
     
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    My recollection is that in past years Aminu was more effective at PF. But I agree that recent advance stats clearly show he is better at the 3. I would love to believe Blazers have seen this too, but the current roster balance indicates they still see him as a 4.
     
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    Sounds like a lottery Team
     
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    playoffs 5 years in a row in the west....sounds like a team on the rise to me
     
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    He's a slightly above average defender (if we're being generous) who can guard SF/PF, and doesn't get totally wrecked when he has to switch onto a PG/SG.
     

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