Notice LONGTIME NBA ANALYST (MARK STEIN) PREDICTS BLAZERS WILL TRADE MCCOLLUM

Tyreke is just so much better in every other area, and his TS% last year was better than CJs mark for his career. Again, I'm basing Tyreke off last season and he could regress back to the mean. But the Tyreke from last year is a better player than McCollum has been or will ever be.

 

I'm not going to dispute that he had a good year statistically but I have to wonder how much of that was playing on a horrible team. Put CJ on last year's Grizzlies team and I think he puts up 25, 5, and 5.

 

and I think that 25ppg might be on the conservative side. People don't seem to understand how prolific a scorer McCollum is.

 

That's an easy excuse... he did all that as the number one option against primarily Western teams. That's impressive, if anything.

 

You could say that about 20 different players.

 

Leading a 22 win team is not impressive, it’s just not. Beware the good stats on bad teams. Not that Evans is “bad” but Not impressed at all...

 

Staying healthy.

Over the last 3 years, Tyreke Evans has missed 30, 42 and 57 games. That's a lot of time in a suit behind the bench. Over those same 3 years C.J. has missed 1, 2 and 2 games. and of the 5 games he missed, 1 was for leaving the bench in a preseason game and one was because Doc Rivers is a dick. He's actually only sat out 3 games in the last 3 years due to injury.

Compare that to the 129 games Tyreke has missed over the same span. I'll take the guy who actually laces up his sneakers and plays every night over the guy who had a great 52-game "season" on the heels of two mediocre "seasons" were he only played 40 and 25 games.

You can't guard 3-positions when you're sitting behind the bench in a suit.

BNM

 

You could, but i didn't. Evans also has injury issues and is 3 years older.

 

For CJ it's an even smaller sample size than Tyreke had last season but look at the last 3 years in games that Dame didn't play. In 2016-17 it was only 5 games but CJ averaged 31.2 points, 4.2 rebounds, and 4.6 assists per game and his FG shooting was 49.1%. It's hard to know how that would extrapolate to a full season and I'm too lazy to look up the stats for the last year but I'd take that over what Tyreke did last year.

 

Don't know why this thread from Jan was bumped but I'm almost certain CJ will not get traded..last Jan was before the trade deadline...Stein was grasping for click bait at that time..Olshey says Curry will will log time at the guard spots and Stauskas will play some 3..also said he aggressively targeted 5 vet wings and got outbid by all of them..wasn't in the cards...our 7 rotation players from last year will still be rotation players..8 and 9 will be Curry and Stauskas...10 will be a battle for a spot...Layman will have to beat Stauskas for a spot...Trent will have to beat Curry

 

Dude, you're good enough at making your point that you dont need to purposefully exclude context in regards to Tyreke and then provide as much context as possible in regards to CJs absences. Last season, Tyreke missed a ton of time for non-injury related reasons. Maybe you didnt know that... Only 2 seasons out of 9 did he have major injury issues. In his first 6 seasons, he played in 83% of games. Add in last year excluded time he missed with non-injury related reasons and that number rises.

Why is 2 seasons the rule, while 7 other seasons are the abboration? Makes no sense.

It's also a part of the answer to your question as to why Tyreke is so cheap. Signing Tyreke for half McCollums pay would have more upside, because theres a possibility that Tyreke would be relatively healthy (like last year) and would provide the same production, while we could then use those savings as capspace or TO get low enough below the hard cap to use our Full-TPE.

 

I think Trent will compete with Turner. They look at Trent as more of a SF wing type.

 

Small sample size, and it changes when teams consistently gameplan for you being the man. I also rememeber going against pretty bad teams in those situations. There's no reason Tyreke couldn't produce the same numbers here as he did last year.

 

2 seasons out of 9 in which he had major injury issues. The other 7 seasons he's playe over 80% of games (last year he missed time due to non-injury related reasons). It's a lazy narrative.

 

True. I'd thought it was clear we weren't being concerned with trading likelyhoods. More just expressing support of having this current roster + Porter Jr. at SF because his skillset would seem to fit so well

 

It's not just two seasons, it's just that he's missed even more games in the last three years than he did earlier in his career. In his 9-year career, he's never played more than 79 games (once). C.J. played in 80, 80 and 81 the last three years. Here's Tyreke's season by season games played:

72
57
63
65
72
79
25
40
54

That's a hell of a lot of missed games, any way you slice it. In 9 seasons, he's missed at least 10 games 7 times and at least 17 games 5 times. The one season he played 79 games is the aeration here.

Sometimes, it seems like you just like to argue to argue. The fact is, Tyreke Evans is FAR less durable than C.J. McCollum. I honestly don't see how you can disagree when the data is so clear.

EDIT: Oops, I forgot that 2012-13 was the lockout shortened season, so I've revised the numbers above.

BNM

 

It's not a lazy narrative at all. It's a fact. It's an irrefutable fact that a guy who has played 25, 40 and 54 games the last three seasons is less durable than a guy who has played 80, 80 and 81 games.

BNM

 

I'm not saying that CJ isn't more durable, I'm saying that based off previous seasons, Tyreke doesn't have durability issues or legitimate injury concerns.

Again, youre refusing to point out that he had a ton of games missed last year because of NON-INJURY REASONS. You state that I :like to argue just to argue", but you started this debate and then then dont even read what I have to say. SMH.

I frgot the lockout too. That means in his first 6 seasons he played in 6 out of every 7 games. (85.7%).

Last year, he missed games due to NON-INJURY RELATED reasons.

Like I said, 2 seasons with major injury issues (where he missed more than a third of his games DUE TO INJURY). I used caps so hopefully you'd read it this time.

 

So teams gameplanned for Tyreke shooting nearly 40% from 3 this year? Or is it more likely they didn't believe the hot shooting would continue and were willing to live with him making 3's versus getting to the rack, which he excels at?

 

To be fair, he missed both games because of injuries and because of non-injury related issues.