Politics I thought Socailism was bad

The U.S. Department of Agriculture announced this week that it will be releasing the first tranche of $12 billion in aid to farmers who have been harshly affected by tariffs from the trade war.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amer...r-off-without-trumps-trade-war-194251558.html

 

The Gov has been in the business of subsidizing farmers from The New Deal on, while this is intended to be in effect as a temporary measure until trade balances, it is something to keep an eye on so that it does not become another pork barrel protected vote generator.

 

So, it's only okay if Republicans do it? And when I say Republicans I mean Trump Republicans.

 

Why are some people bound and determined to suggest that any form of redistribution whatsoever is full blown socialism? Not the case.

 

Its official we are Valenzuela.

 

Fucking A!

Protecting a vulnerable group from the governments action taken for benefit of us all is quite appropriate.
I admire the President for taking this trade issue on face first. Protecting the farmer while we address the main issue
is spot on.

 

Frankly, I am not a fan. If it is a temporary measure that keeps the economy stable, it may well be what is required. Just like when FDR started doing it, there was a purpose. Last thing I want to see is a long lasting subsidy like we have on milk and cheese etc.

 

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It reads a little better when you finish the sentence.

 

So you're ok with socialism then? Because that's what it is...

 

Dude, that's not US making that argument. That's y'all conservatives!

Conservatives always complain about ANYTHING being socialist. Please stop. You guys can't just change mid stream because it suits you. It's bull.

Conservatives fight tooth and nail with bullshit slippery slope arguments about socialism all the time.

Obamacare = Socialism

Remember????

Obamacare is probably one of the most capitalistic programs of all time but EVERYWHERE you conservatives were on that bullshit. Calling it a government takeover.

Stop being hypocrites!

 

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You made this esy, although, it seems odd to quote myself.

 

I hadn't read that yet.

 

Anyone who cooperates with anyone else is going straight to Hell.

For example, message boards. Traditional values say that each individual should holler separately to each other one. But now, we're forcibly grouped together in a union of communication. God is watching you and you are doomed. If he's napping, the FBI is still awake.

 

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright

 

I remember when it was argued that Medicare was going to lead to socialism and the downfall of this country. Republicans hated Medicare with a passion. Now, even the threat of getting rid of Obama Care is going to be Trump's downfall and Medicare may be one of the most popular pieces of legislation of all time.

 

^^^subsidizing/redistribution when it's really needed is one thing but when it's implemented when it's not really necessary is something else.

...we have a lot of "farmers" down here who are well known to be "windshield farmers", which is to say that they mainly do their farming by monitoring it through the windshield of the brand new pick up truck. They plant to purposely fail. They throw some seed in the ground, file for crop insurance, and when the crop does indeed fail, they simply file a claim and get a nice fay check from our government...they're completely unashamed "welfare farmers"...all because of flawed government programs/practices.

...don't get me wrong, I know sometimes government help really helps but if a "farmer" goes 6-8 years in a row filing for crop insurance, he's either unbelievably unlucky, or too stupid to be a farmer, or he's merely abusing government help.