I think there are two sides to your post. One the one hand I agree that people shouldn’t be so caught up and bothered by what others think or say. But on the other hand when folks are not corrected and permitted to being offensive it can lead to a belief that the idea is actually ok. That can then lead to actions. Example People used to say fag frequently. You might think, what’s the big deal, just words. But for people who are a bit homophobic the frequent use of that term makes them feel they are correct. And the more homophobic people end up hurting gay people. Also, you have someone who is gay and they hear fag all the time. It starts enforcing the idea that they are sick, bad or degenerates and can lead to self loathing and even suicide. So yes, people would be best to not take such offense however it is a good thing societally when “sticks and stones” are confronted and weeded out of our world, as “fag” exited the common vernacular gay people gained more acceptance and there has even been a decline in suicide amongst gay people. Overall, it’s good to confront racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. There is often the perception that just cause someone reacts overtly wrong to sticks and stones that they are overly sensitive, but more often they are confronting the word-slinger out of a ideal of rightness and improvement not cause they are too hurt.
I suspect you may have a point in some cases. But in this case, I think the 'Monkey This Up' is closer to the "throw a monkey wrench in the works" than it is to the "See that little monkey run". Even the later took a long time to make a racial thing out of it. Probably it was done to take down Cosell, as it qrew in the racial taunt.
Only an utter moron could present this as a racist attack. Only an utter moron could believe the first moron.
Well as I said earlier I believe it’s more than likely it was intended as a dog whistle but I don’t know and I wouldn’t bet more than a few bucks on this one incident. However, to me I view it in context and that leads me to believe it was intended. Contextual relevance: 1) he is intelligent and has spent plenty of time in the public eye. Whereas you may not have meant this racially, he is a politician and a successful one. They use their words with purpose. 2) he just used another possible dog whistle that joe Biden famously and others have already been publicly chastised for, calling the black man articulate when you don’t often praise white men the same way. (Once again, by itself it’s not proof of anything). 3) he is a supporter of Trump and courts the Trump vote including the portion that Trump has so successfully courted with his own racial dog whistles. You take the monkey comment by itself and I wouldn’t put weight behind it, but who is saying it, where he is saying it. Who he is trying to get to support him, I think the likelihood of it being racist skyrockets.
I’m not sure why I’m opening myself to a bunch of useless flack but........this particular thread truly takes the case for making a mountain out of a molehill and utterly illustrates just how far we have fallen as a society. When (WHEN???) on God’s green earth did using the word “monkey” as a frickin’ VERB(!!!) become rascist???? I have used that word for 64 years and NEVER EVER has it had any rascist connotations whatsoever. It means to fumble with, tweak with, to mess with et al. Like an actual monkey would do if turned loose on something unfamiliar or man made. How many times have members of this forum observed someone fumbling around with something and said (or thought), “They look like a monkey trying to fuck a football?” I get that “monkey” as a NOUN is questionable at best when used to describe another human being. But anyone who thinks that this DeSantis guy (whoever he is) used the term with rascist intent is deliberately looking for trouble. What a pathetic....and counterproductive......topic. All the real problems in government and everyone would rather be off chasing squirrels........time to re-evaluate whether this forum is worth anymore of my precious time.......
I always just assumed it was named after Charles Monckey, who invented it? That's what my father told me when I was a child, anyway.
He's stupid for saying it. He's doubling down on his stupidity. It was a stupid thing to say. He's gonna lose anyway.
Nope! That is a pipe wrench or Stillson. It can be misused for the same task, but it will sure as hell mess up your softer nuts like brass, even bronze. It will destroy the aluminum nuts. It sure as hell works the same, if you intend to throw a "Monkey wrench in the works". An old time Shipwright would rip your dumb ass for even suggesting they are the same. Perhaps plumbers do not know the difference. I will leave you to judge.
It was only stupid because he didn’t stop to think about how the left wing zealots would respond. As I stated, ANYONE who actually thinks that comment was in any way, shape or form rascist is deliberately looking for trouble. End of debate.
The debates not over because you say it is.. Bottom line, you shouldn't use the word monkey when describing black people. So no... What he said was stupid. Let's just leave it at that.
I’ll leave it where I want to leave it. DeSantis was not “describing” anyone whatsoever. He was telling his audience that his opponent should not trying fucking with a local economy that was doing well. Imagine the uproar if he had used the term I used. Sounds to me like a very large segment of the population has a serious reading/listening comprehension problem and only see/hear what they want to.........
I see. So the actual meaning of words is not the same as it depends on the politics of the speaker. Yes I do believe you mean it. Monkey has taken on new meaning, I suppose more will follow, when it suits the purposes of the left.
Bullshit. Monkey has not "taken on a new meaning". This is fucking utter bullshit. I'm not saying he was being racist by saying monkey, but to act like monkey hasn't been a pejorative to describe us is utter crap.
