Politics Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing, now with New allegations!

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yes, I know. I said 'in the end' not 'in the beginning'. I was not describing the current or past situation, I was describing the future situation.
    Even today, something like 18% of the people elect 50% of the Senate. Because the states have very different populations.
    This demographic trend is increasing. How long do you think people will be willing to let a tiny minority run the country?

    That's no problem, we can get a supper majority by dinnertime tomorrow.

    Not ignore. Change. It will happen, eventually, if the low-population states insist on steamrolling the high-population states as they are doing now.
    That wouldn't be pretty - there would have to be at least a threat to break the country up.

    My guess is that people will instead find a way to have a truce, and do what's right for the country at least some of the time. That would involve the senators from East Bumfuck occasionally recognizing that there are many more people that don't raise hogs than those who do.

    So as I said: you have minority rule right now. You have control of all three branches of government, despite being the minority. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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    >>> Yes this is what I thought you meant. It is not hidden.
    >>>Well then get it on son! While I have the time to meet and greet you.
    >>> See the above, this will not likely be the discussion when you meet men that like the Constitution.
    I enjoy the system and agree with my Grandfather whom came here and told me how grand the place is when I was young. He did in fact use the word "Grand" too. Perhaps you should have heard it. But then I have this sense, we are beyond talk, when we meet.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Then war it is boys! Load up the muskets!

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    Here's where I disagree. The American experiment has made us better than just about any other country. Our checks and balances make it so that we can change things as they become necessary (abolition of slavery, the franchise, etc) but make it really hard to fundamentally change the country and who we are. If you don't like it, find a place where you can change to be something that Constitution says we aren't. No one's stopping you, unless it's one of the other 190+ countries around the world with strict entrance laws.
     
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    I do not have a musket.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yes, it's hard but it can be done when necessary, so maybe instead of take a hike, get to work would be a better piece of advice?

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Hah! Then prepare to surrender.

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    Nuts!
     
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    The only reason Trump was elected was because he was the only one on the ballot not named Hillary fucking Clinton.
     
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    ...you said you "disagree" but I don't see how what you said/meant differs from what I said/meant.
     
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    Gary Johnson and the Green Party lady who’s name I can’t remember say hi. But, yeah, point taken.
     
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    ...oh, I know about the others, but they were never really in the race...but I would really like to see a moderate/independent strong enough to destroy the Dems and Reps in the POTUS election...Senate and House too for that matter.
     
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    Once again, false. At least in FL. I was able to vote who I wanted to vote for, and didn't have to choose either. I agree, though, that the D's shot themselves in the foot. Biden or Sanders might be president today, if the DNC hadn't been beholden to The Narrative.

    Edit: Nevermind, I see what you're saying. Part of the reason for the independent vote was to try to get to the 5%, so that they could be invited to debates, get some ad time, etc. Obviously it didn't happen this election, because of "hold-your-nose voters (on both sides)", but you're right...being Team Elephant or Team Donkey isn't helpful.
     
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    ...yup...kinda like being forced to choose between a knife in the chest or a bullet in the head.
     
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    Agreed. I didn't vote for her.
     
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    Instant runoff voting doesn't get rid of the electoral college.

    Did you watch the video?
     
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    Besides money in politics, the fact that politics is treated like a sport to win, with only 2 teams to root for, is one of our nation's biggest problems.
     
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    ...watching/listening to Mitch McConnell...hypocrisy from both sides playing the blame game.

    ..."you suck, no you suck....well you suck more, no you suck more......."
     
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    ...Kavanaugh's conformation not a slam dunk. Murkowsli just said that Kavanaugh "is not the right man for the court at this time". Collins is to announce her intent at 3 PM Eastern. Flake is still "wobbly".
     
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    I don't think those terms mean what you think they mean. They are well-established part of the alternative lexicon. Next thing people are going to say is that a blumpkin has something to do with pumpkins. It's insulting. This redefining words and changing words has been going on too much recently, most notably, and repeatedly, from the president himself. The whole charade is tired.

    What's also tired is this confusing of realities, this notion that because the Democrats seem to be using Ford as a tool it somehow negates what she has to say. To say she doesn't seem credible is laughable, but if you say this, there is still a mountain of circumstantial evidence surrounding Kavanaugh that at the very least reveals him to be a liar under oath and incredibly defensive and hotheaded (not great traits for supreme court judges). Some say that's what they would do if they were falsely accused. Maybe. But it's also textbook guilty behavior. So it could go either way.

    The point is you have all these things to weigh, and regardless of where you stand politically, the scales tip towards unfit.
     
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