Politics "Don't be fooled" by Trumps economy

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I have seen it too. They have all been edited or deleted. As have your insults. He is not allowed. No one is allowed to hurl personal insults. I am not putting up with any of it.
     
  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Your getting close yourself
     
  3. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    And yet you forget the harm Trump has done:

    Pretty much insulted every one of our allies
    Praises dictators as great people
    Has created more separation in this country than anyone else
    Has removed regulations that help create clean air
    Has removed regulations that help keep our waters clean
    Has removed regulations in the work force that were implemented for safety
    Has opened up the ability to do off shore drilling for oil along the west coast.
    Has opened up the ability to mine in some of our national park areas
    Has opened up the ability to clear cut trees
    Has separated kids from their families and have locked them up in cages
    Has had numerous people indicted from his administration
    Has turned over an alarming amount of positions in his administration
    Calls the press and democrats as enemies which is creating more separation
    Insults people on a daily basis from every day citizens to opposing party members
    and the list goes on and on

    Yeah, he's just been great for this country.
     
  4. Gronk Brady

    Gronk Brady Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your list of false liberal fear tactic talking points that a have zero impact on people’s lives... do you work for CNN?
     
  5. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    False? All of those are true
     
  6. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    False? Prove they are false then

    I am not a liberal

    Many of those things impact lives on a daily basis or in the long run. You don't like clean air, clean water, safe working environments or land protected from severe abuse like it was done many years ago?

    I don't work.
     
  7. Gronk Brady

    Gronk Brady Well-Known Member

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    Look, no one political party will solve all problems... I myself prioritize. I believe in small government, lower taxes, I’m anti abortion, pro gay marriage, anti gun... at this time I believe the most important issue is the economy... if people can’t put food on the table to feed their families then nothing else matters... it must be easy to ignore that when you don’t work. Trump is doing a great job and everyone knows it even tho democrats don’t want to admit it... but my biggest issue with Democrats is the corruption... what I saw during the last election was dispicaple and enabled me to be open minded and realize I was republican... and this stunt the dems pulled with Kavanaugh ensures I will never be a Democrat again... just disgusting behavior
     
  8. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Repiblicans are corrupt too. Both sides play the same games. Both are dirty. If you think switching to republican means you are part of an innocent virtuous party you are wrong.
     
  9. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Scott Pruitt? Tom Price? Michael Flynn? Paul Manafort? Rick Gates? Michael Cohen?

    barfo
     
  10. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    That's a pretty hypocritical view. You think it's despicable what the democrats did, but I didn't hear you mention anything about what the republicans did when they blocked the Garland nomination for about a year and used the excuse that it was close to election time and now this time it was much closer to election time but no big deal. McConnel even stated that it was his goal to make sure Obama didn't get anything passed during his last few years office. You don't find that "despicable"? I call it obstruction of justice and he should have been impeached for that comment. There was plenty of food on my table before trump came along and I don't work cause I am retired. Something you may not be able to do if trump and his administration get there way and start defunding SSI and taking money away from it to balance his trillion dollar deficit tax plan.
     
  11. Gronk Brady

    Gronk Brady Well-Known Member

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    Not voting on a candidate because an election was coming up is a little different than accusing a guy of being a serial rapist... give me a break
     
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    There is also a difference between temporary ex associates/employees having personal tax issues vs your Attorney General covering up crimes committed by the Secretary of State, then having the DNC chair give debate questions to their candidate, then Obama delivering 2 billion dollars in unmarked bills in a cargo plane overnight to a terrorist supporting Iran
     
  13. CupWizier

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    actually it isn't as blocking a nomination for about a year for NO reason was bad and how do you know the accusations aren't legit? There were so many other factors for not confirming Kavanaugh that the sexual assault allegations played very little into my opinion of him. There has to be much better options.
     
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  14. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I don't think you are being very honest here. Temporary? Cohen worked for him for more than a decade. Pruitt, Flynn, Manafort, and Price were only 'temporary' because their corruption was exposed.

    The Iran deal was a multi-national agreement, and completely legal under US law. Your definition of 'corrupt' seems to be 'anything Gronk Brady doesn't like'.

    The debate question (singular)? Yeah, that qualifies as corrupt.

    AG covering up crimes by the Sec State? That's a conspiracy theory.

    Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Gates? Those are felons.

    barfo
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    There is no need for you to read further.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    You deliver $400 Million in cash as secretly as possible, although I can't find where it was done at night. Perhaps you could back up your assertion. The reason for a secret delivery of such a large amount of cash should be obvious. The cash was not done in dollars but rather an assortment of currencies from other nations because Congress outlawed the delivery of dollars to Iran. The date of the delivery coincided with the release of four American hostages.
    According to Fact Check the total was closer to $1.7 Billion which was arrived at because of interest accrued over nearly 40 years. I think it was somewhere around 37 years.
    If you are prohibited from using banks to transfer the money, how else can you deliver the cash?
    A simple Google will tell you all of this.
     
  17. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    If you really want to look at facts, Kavanough committed perjury during his confirmation hearings. Don't even try to deny it. The guy lied in court. Fuck off with trying to pretend you are on the right side of history. Back ass Republicans are going to bring our country down. Fuck their selfish and bigoted ways.
     
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    I think lying in court is a prerequisite for becoming an elected official, political party notwithstanding.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    https://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2018/10/dow_slides_another_546_points.html

    But I thought Trump was supposed to be GOOD for the economy?
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    It's the Fed mucking with interest rates. When interest rates go up some investing shifts to bonds with guaranteed returns rather the stocks.
     
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