Jimmy Butler wants out? (He does.)

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  1. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

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    You're assuming Neil will be here after this season. I'm assuming otherwise. ;)
    I'm of the mind that we'll have a new GM and coach before we contend.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Ahh, that would make a difference. If not trading for Jimmy results in Olshey's departure, that might be a reason to prefer that outcome...

    However, if Collins and/or Simons pan out in relatively short order, it's unlikely that Neil goes anywhere.
     
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    It has taken me a good year and a half to climb out of my pit of utter disdain for Olshey, but if I find out that what kept us from Jimmy-fucking-Butler is Zach-fucking-Collins, I'm going to fall right back in!

    I get why Butler is a bad idea. And I think all those things. However, I simultaneously imagine a Dame, CJ, Butler, Chief, Nurk starting lineup and I get borderline giddy. Craziness aside, Butler would slot us inches from if not above Houston, in my opinion, with the potential to beat every single team in the NBA in a seven game series. I really believe that.
     
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    One thing I've learned from the past few days is that Jimmy Butler is one unique dude.
     
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    They will start off well and then they will falter around the trade deadline as rumors heat up.
     
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    Honestly if I was a player, I would tell him dude just go sit at home. You dont want to be here, you think we suck without you. Im gonna go out and prove we can play without you.
     
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    Prop, Im just not sure Id give up Collins but I'd give up Jake, Simons, and/or Trent plus Mo and/or Turner.
    Im not convinced the wolves would trade him to the same division. You'd need to include CJ and some for that to happen.
     
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    Yes, there is a potential there to take 1-2 steps back. But there is also a potential to move 3-4 steps further along than we ever could have reached with CJ + Collins/Simons.

    IMO the reward outweighs the risk.
     
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    Butler call player only mtg, going to stay.
    Im telling ya Thibs and him created this whole scenario to light a fire under the youngsters and/or increase his trade value.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Just stop. You got that bullshit straight from Skip Bayless.

    Here's a teammate here giving him props. Do you research info or just swallow it? I'll trust the news from the horse's mouth before I trust an IDIOT talking head...

     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Butler should be our new GM. He will make trades. If the other GM won't trade, Butler will fly there and kick his ass and steal his players. And go to his house and eat all his spinach.
     
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    He's soft. Plain and simple. Ain't no coaching out soft.
     
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    You're the one who included Simons in the deal. :dunno:
     
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    This behavior doesn't increase his trade value at all.

    It does the opposite.
     
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    I like Collins but the dude had problems posting up guards in summer league. If he’s the reason why we won’t trade for Jimmy, well I wouldn’t be surprised bc Olshey loves his guys but ugh
     
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    It would improve it as of now. If he stays and plays well his value goes up as compared to now. The Wolves know this and he does too.
     
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    Interesting--per Shams, Butler had told management several days prior to yesterday that if/when he returned to practice, he was going to do exactly what he did. Down to the taking the 3rd stringers and whooping the starters, this was not just premeditated, but specifically foretold. Shams also suggests that the only players that have issue with the way Butler is going at management are KAT and Wiggins, and that Thibs is secretly very pleased with Butler's actions, hoping that instead of trading him, ownership will actually consent to keeping him and giving him the 5-year max extension.

    Personally, I think that if Butler and his camp think emasculating his team's two #1 overall picks will endear him to the team owners, he's nuts.
     
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    Yeah he would be a great quick fix for a team, but isn't he 2 for 2 now on being on teams with bad chemistry? He wears out his welcome quickly. Teams will still want him, but the price they give up for him will not be very much.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I super duper hope we don't trade Simons at this time. I have high hopes for him. I'd keep Simons over Trent Jr., Baldwin IV, etc. Especially since we don't appear to be in championship right now mode, we need to continue to develop that playoff experience, contender training, etc.

    :cheers:
     

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