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  1. santeesioux

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    U of Oregon did require proof. I gave them a copy of my father's birth certificate.
     
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    You probably just showed them your AKC paperwork.
     
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    I once checked such a box even though I'm only about 1/16 Native American. It's what young people occasionally do. Anyhow, what's the big deal? She never received any benefits for it.
     
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    Sorry, but only white liberals can decide if what she did was wrong. Gonna need a DNA test to prove that this Cherokee has white privilege.
     
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    You know in those large classes where there would be professional note takers and you could get them for a fee. I got them for free!
     
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    Again incorrect. There was no corroborating evidence at the time of her claim that she contained native American ancestry.
     
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    Well..... 1/16 is a damn sight more Native American than 1/64 or 1/1,024.
     
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    How did Neanderthals get into the conversation? Was that supposed to be a slam?
     
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    That's the strawman you are creating, right there. She's never claimed to be 'Native American' in the sense of full-blooded member of the tribe.

    She also never claimed to be an astronaut, do you want to assert that she's not an astronaut?

    That she had native american ancestry. What did you think she was claiming?

    I've never seen a form that says 'don't check any box if you aren't 100% sure you are 100% that ethnicity'.

    In reality, at that point in time, yes, the form creator was very likely happy to pick up any trace ethnicity, so she filled out the form in keeping with what was expected of her.

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    Everyone with European or Asian ancestry has very small traces of Neanderthal ancestry in them. I was joking that the tiny amount of Native blood in her was less than her Neanderthal ancestry.
     
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    It would only be a slam if you told a neanderthal he was part Lanny.
     
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    Incorrect, what she is has nothing to do with whether she had evidence or not. What she is was later sustained by proof but the proof doesn't change the fact that she was part Native American from the day she was born.
     
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    Not true. Only 15% of the euro asian population has traces of neanderthal.
     
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    Which is still very high.
     
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    Things can be true even if there is no corroborating evidence presented at the time. There's a difference between true and proven.

    It is true that I have $3 in my pocket right this minute. I can't prove it since there is no one here to examine my pockets.

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    Just because I eat with my fingers.
    Have you seen those Neanderthal babes? Man, they should make a pin-up calendar. Hot, hot, hot.
     
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    Another strawman. She is not claiming tribal membership or anything of the sort.

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    Ohhhhhhhhhhhh I must have missed the part where it asks you if you're a full blooded member of a tribe or if you're just a little Native Americanish. I didn't realize that you were supposed to check a box based on what your old family lore said might have happened a few hundred years ago. Did she check more than one box or just Native American?

    Did she ever check a box saying she was an astronaut?

    Oh please, I have never once seen one of those questions ask if you have a very small percentage of Native American or Black or Hispanic. They want to know what your ethnicity is. If I were to put anything other than Caucasian I would be lying. And since her DNA came back as 95% European, she was lying as well.

    If college's are trying to promote diversity, getting another white person who is 95% European isn't going to help, and checking boxes for tiny parts of our DNA makeup is being disingenuous. If I were to do a DNA test and found out that I was 5% African, would it be fair to mark that I'm African American on a college application?
     
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    Well, the Cherokee seem to think there's more there, and I'm willing to bet more tribes will be issuing statements.
     
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