Jimmy Butler wants out? (He does.)

Basically, if HOU gets Butler, they get an edge on GSW in the back court...but still have no way to counter GSW's front court. So you negate Curry/Klay but get steamrolled by Durant/Green. And you're out FOUR 1st round picks. Do it, HOU! DOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIT!!!

 

Butler is good as a spot up shooter. He was near 40% on catch and shoot from outside last year, and 44% the year before. He’d be a massive addition to Houston.

But it’s being reported that Minnesota isn’t interested in their offer, which is 4 firsts, Knight and Criss.

 

His value is going up and the Wolves will get a solid Vet & some before trade deadline.
Butler and Thibs have a strategy that helps both...pretty easy to see, imo.

 

Yeah that is a great deal for Houston especially if they are not high on Knight and his 15 million dollar contract next year.
They are basically saying they can find 2nd round picks and cheap free agents that are as good as the 4 late 1st round picks. And they are probably right.

 

I really like CJ but I could see the Wolves interested in him and some for Butler and some. I just don't know if they would trade to their own division. If they wanted CJ enough?
If I'm PDX I wouldn't do it unless they had a commitment from Butler that he would stay for at least 2 years.

 

A late first round pick every other year for 7 years is no where near worth Jimmy Butler. I'm scratching my head at the media freaking out like that would be some great haul.

 

This is similar with Laker fans and their pitches for Dame. Those picks are worthless in a deal when you're the team shipping out the franchise player -- Dame+Lebron, those picks will always land in the late 20s.

 

I would not think there is much difference between trading within the division and trading within the conference. I guess one possible extra game a year.

 

Exactly, people said the same thing about Brooklyn picks be worth little. Sure Houston could have late picks but 5 and 7 years from now is an enternaty in NBA. Those picks would be great assets, there value is fluid. But today thetvalue is much better than the junk they gave up for Butler a year ago.

 

There is no way to know that the picks beyond the first one are going to be late picks. I'd take the gamble that at least one of those picks will be pretty good...especially the ones that are further down the road. And even if MIN doesn't use all of the picks, they have trade value. If I'm MIN I make this trade, package the first two picks in trades to get incrementally better, and hold out hope that you hit the jackpot with the last two picks.
This HOU roster is going to blow up sooner rather than later. And HOU won't have many tools to add talent since they'll have traded 7 years worth of draft picks (and can't trade the picks in between), and will have over $100M tied up in CP3/Harden/Butler (if they're able to re-sign Butler). CP3 is going to be an untradeable anchor. I can see HOU being good for another 2-3 years, but if they trade all their picks I don't see them being good beyond that.

Edit: Looks like several other people already said basically the same thing.

 

If Butler re-signed for the max with Houston they'd be over the cap with 3 players (Paul, Harden, Butler) and over the tax line when adding their 4th highest paid player (Capela).

Sure that is a great 4 players to have but given Butler and Paul don't usually last a full season, they wouldn't scare me much at all. Of course they'd get some ring chasers but it would be really difficult to win that way.

 

Agreed it's no slam dunk they win or contend or it works well with Butler. They took a big step back and we're behind GS last year anyways. I do think it's a slam dunk they have a better chance than now and a better chance than keeping the picks. Worth the risk if you are trying to maximize chance of a title. This move does increase their chance of a Brooklyn disaster so if I'm the owner I'd be more reluctant than the GM or fans to do this.

 

Also, I really wanna see Jimmy strangle James because he refuses to play defense!

 

I'm good with it. I hope they do it. It would kill the future of Houston, and that team isn't good enough to beat Golden State.

 

I thought they were protected?

 

And yes I am assuming that.

Houston has historically found a way to stay relevant for how long now?

 

Houston with El Beardo plus Jimmy Butler doesn't need Chris Paul and washed up Melo to be a playoff team. Seriously. Those two are no where near the end of their careers. No way they would fall into the lottery.