The Official CJ McCollum Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Jade Falcon, Oct 26, 2018.

  1. hoopsjock

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    Fine, if this how you're going to be just shut the fuck up about being called a hater and don't ever mention @BonesJones, @dviss1, or myself in your posts again if you are unwilling to have discussions with us.
     
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    For those that actually want to talk about the thread topic, which is CJ....

    Would you say he's going one on one more, less, or exactly the same amount as previous seasons?
     
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    @dviss1 Fuck you, Clown!

    Don't bother responding because I'm not going to talk to you!

    So stupid, smh.
     
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    Trying to stay on topic and no one responds to those posts lol.

    Anyways. I think and I have 0 numbers to back it up its about the same. His offensive inefficiency is something I think will even out as the season goes along. He’s proven he can score, he may be streaky but eventually those shots will fall. The other aspects of his game Im not sure if they’ll get better.
     
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    CJ is a top 5 ballhandler in this league.

    1. Kyrie
    2. Curry
    3. Name somebody better than CJ... I'll wait...
     
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    Again for the 123486446th Time: READ THE FUCKING HEAT GAME THREAD!!!! I've written everything about CJ what needs to be said, all the statistics and my opinion about him as a player, if you still pretend that Cj is an efficient player, or even a good second option then you have no eye for reality
     
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    from what I've seen it look like he going 1o1 less. And I think he's looking to pass more too.
     
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    CJ is the second best asset this team has now, and you don't trade him unless its for another high caliber player that improves the team. Thats going to be hard to do, imo.
     
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    I have read the fucking game thread. You were asked to clarify one of your posts, which you didn't. Do my questions in this thread have anything to do with the statistics you posted in the other thread?
     
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    In terms of dribble moves yes Except maybe Harden (I mean I hate the way he plays but he’s really good too).

    Terms of who I want handling the ball well that to me is an interesting conversation.
     
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    If Zach keeps up what he’s doing, he might get there. I realize its way too early to call that, but he’s been good so far.
     
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    To be fair someone in there did call his mom a clown. Just sayin’.
     
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    It's weird, I think you can definitely see that he is thinking too much about whether to shoot. Just the fact that he isn't playing with the 2nd unit as the PG you'd think his usage rate would go down but it's right in line with his career average. His turnover % is way down but so is his assist %. From my eye test it seems like I haven't thought he has over dribbled as much in year's past but is still taking his normal amount of shots. Maybe we should try just camping him in the corner for a quarter or something to see what happens.
     
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    Alright, who got @TorturedBlazerFan's password and is making a pro-Zach post!

    JK!
     
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    Cj had the 10th ranked ts% on the team last year. That is not good efficiency.
     
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    And Lillard was 6th, do you consider him to not have good efficiency either? This is what happens when you cherry pick one stat from one season.
     
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    2 years ago, Dame and CJ had virtually the same TS% (.001 off). Is Dame not efficient either or could it possibly just be that TS% isn't the only stat that matters for efficiency?
     
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    Off the top of my head I dont remember a lot of like 8-9-10 dribbles by CJ to get a shot moments this year. I actually feel like he’s taken mostly shots he can make they just arent going in.

    Weirdly enough I feel like CJ’s at his best when he takes like 3-4 dribbles and steps into his shot.
     
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    This tool does not impact the game much if he is not hitting his shot or setting other people up. Since he has not really improved as an assist man, I think the original point still stands.

    CJ's biggest contribution is scoring. When he is not scoring, at least so far this year, he has been a liability. I am a CJ fan, I believe he will snap out of it - but I think the criticism is fair.
     
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    Really? I didn't mean anything by that man c'mon...
     

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