Jimmy Butler wants out? (He does.)

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  1. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    What’s the hold up
     
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    well I know its just PER but their players PER is like a combined 46.7 and the Blazers combined is 26.5 so maybe the hold up is they dont want to...
     
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    Clearly they want ET but NO is like "No. He's untouchable".
     
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    That would be a steal for Portland. I cant believe some fans STILL think that would be a bad move
     
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    Short term great move. Long term, I dunno if I want to be the team being paying 34 year old Butler..
     
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    Because he's back on the court playing well and winning a few games.
    When all this happened with him it was in the off/pre-season and it appeared Butler had them by the balls thus creating a low bid scenario.
    Now that the season is on the way and Butler appears to be the catalyst for them playing well and winning, and teams having a better feel for their weakness's, it will indeed entice other teams.
    I just don't think the wolves are interested in Houston's deal as they are in a win now mode, now the Miami one just may come about, on Minn. terms.
    But there could be other teams just willing to trade on of the stars for a better fit as long as Butler is comfortable with the destination.
     
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    I think long term is what she would worry about the most.
     
  8. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    MIN has a losing record and KAT, the guy they signed to a max extension this summer, has been a total non-factor. They are not "playing well and winning". They are playing poorly, losing and getting booed in their own building.

    They are winless on the road, and after a home game against UTA tomorrow, they have a 5-game road trip coming up in early November. Assuming they lose at home to UTA, I see them likely going 1-4 on that road trip. That would put them at 4-9 after the first month of the season. Not sure how that helps Jimmy's trade value. Last year, they got off to a hot start (7-3). This year, with all the turmoil and bad blood between Butler, KAT and Wiggins, things seem to be going downhill fast.

    BNM
     
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    Timberwolves were 1.35 to 1 to not make the playoffs this season. Amazing value, told everybody to put whatever they can on it. I would have put $10K on it if it was legal in Poland, would have been a nice $23.5K return.
     
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    ok....so you think Butlers trade value is the same or worse than lets say 1 math ago? I don't.
     
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    Don't forget the guy we got from the vonleh trade !
     
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    As decent as our start is......if we lose tonight....4-3 could put us out of the top 8 in the west.
    Current teams who are not in the top 8 include OKC, Houston, Minnesota, and the Lakers, all who were projected to finish ahead of us. I guess my point is....it's still really early to bet on who makes the playoffs. Injuries will be a huge factor as always. The west is so tight
     
  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yes, I do. MIN has been asking for too much and that has driven down potential interest. There has been a fundamental disconnect between MIN ownership and the coach/front office though this whole Butler drama. Their demands have been unrealistic and, at times, conflicting. Butler has DEMANDED a trade, more than once and his presence is having a negative impact on KAT, the guy MIN's ownership has committed to build around.

    Friction between the players is only going to intensify and if the losing continues, desperation to move Butler will only increase. Right now, no one else NEEDS Butler as much a MIN NEEDS to move him. Even HOU, off to a 1-4 start and missing Harden, isn't desperate enough to meet MIN's demands.

    BNM
     
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    It's really ridiculous to see Towns standing in the corner and not getting involved in the Offense, what a waste of talent
     
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    I guess we'll see!
     
  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Do you think MIN will actually get an all star, or near all star in return for Butler?

    I don't. Hell, HOU wouldn't even give them Eric Gordon.

    BNM
     
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    yea, I think so. He's worth it as a player and all 30 teams know it!
    Just a matter of fit for two teams.
     
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    He is worth it if he stays. Unless he is willing to commit to the trading team - is he really worth giving an all-star caliber player for?

    Look in a vacuum - and sure, there are plenty of teams that would be happy to trade an all-star caliber player for him. Given the contract situation and his desire to be paid like a super-star - the situation changes dramatically.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I would still 100% trade for Butler.
     
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    I agree with you about Butler's value but we won't really know what Houston is or isn't willing to give up until tomorrow when they can combine Chriss and Knight with other salaries.
     

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