Is it time to panic about CJ?

CJ is an elite one on one scorer. We will need that skill throughout the season when Dame hits his annual slump or if we run into injuries. Have to look big picture. A top team needs to have multiple attacks, his game will come in handy soon enough once the league starts getting accustomed to our new personnel and the rules.

 

I agree....when he is 'on'. It's just that for him to be 'on', it often takes away from almost everyone else on the team. Not only does it take away from others who might be hitting shots, it disrupts the rhythm for the style the Blazers play and then that can start to affect following possessions. And when he is not on, he brings almost nothing else to the table.

 

You're really not looking big picture.

I feel like people are getting clouded into what an SG should be by looking at Klay Thompson. CJ is not Klay. He has a completely different game and has strengths that Klay doesn't. Appreciate and value what he brings vs trying to turn him into something else.

 

Exactly

 

Didn't say anything about comparing him to Klay.....and thanks for letting me know about the big picture. Yeah, that's how I think. #Psychic

 

What strength is that? Dribbling?

 

Dismiss it all you want, but yes. And shooting off the dribble, and getting his own shot, etc etc.

 

Whats the answer?

 

Is there a reason this isn't placed into the other CJ thread?

 

Yes, those are some of his strengths.
But looking at the big picture, his strengths don't outweigh his weaknesses. He's a good player, not a great player. We need an upgrade to take the next step as a franchise.

 

It’s not about comparing to Klay specifically, it’s about his fit on this team and if he is worth committing nearly 1/3 of salary cap to. CJ is obviously talented, it’s just that it will always be difficult for this team to go to the next level when they have such a small backcourt... not only is CJ undersized, but he is not a good defender either. Also, on offense he is at his best with the ball in his hands... it’s all about fit and using your resources wisely... I know it may be hard for many fans to understand because they fall in love with our players

 

There are other positions and skills that need addressing.

And what exactly do you want to get by trading CJ? I have no trouble moving him for the right piece. And don't mention the toxic malconent Jimmy Butler. You trade CJ for him-- he infects our locker room and leaves next year and you're left with nothing to show for supposedly our best tradeable asset in CJ.

 

HE IS NOT ELITE IN ONE ON ONE !!! His Career stats says he's below Average when he's creating his own shot! So please Stop to say that CJ is Elite in this Category, he never was except for one Season. The only Area CJ has been Elite in his Career is Catch&Shot, Unfortunately, only 32% of his shots in his Career has been Catch&Shot. I posted his stats in the Miami Heat Game Thread, you can read it

 

i agree with much of your assessment, but Dame is going to have a say, no doubt about. And maybe the team should'nt consider Dame's thought about CJ as an asset? I think they should at this point o time.

 

CJ is a ball hog. He has always been a ball hog. That's great for CJ, but when you put him at point guard that means he's going to call his number first, second, third, and often times 4th before he passes to someone else.

Turner is playing significantly better this season, and so is our bench.

He's shooting 50% from the field on 8.4 attempts per game for 9.9 ppg. That's pretty close to what he was averaging during his best time in Boston. He's also averaging 4.5 assists, 5 rebounds, and 1.1 steals.

Most importantly he has a career high PER of 15.1 and TS% of 54.3. His asst% is the second best of his career at 26.2.

Basically, he's doing what we originally paid him to do, and our bench is thriving.

 

CJ's asst% has progressively gotten worse every season since 2015-2016 when it was 21.6%.

It is currently 10.6% on a still very high usg% of 25.4%

(Evan Turner's usg% is 19.2