2018 Around the NBA - November

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Hot take: Steph is going to end up a top ten player of all time when it's all said and done.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    When all is said and done, who will be considered the better player, Steph or Durant? Why?

    BNM
     
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    Raw numbers wise and given the longevity and health, I say KD. But when you consider intangibles and impact to the game and team, it's Steph pretty easily. Steph's game resulted in a paradigm shift for the entire league. And the only reason why guys like Dame and Kemba don't get more pub for their games is because Steph did it first and did it better than anyone else can ever do. It's pretty analogous to MJ v Clyde.

    It also depends on what KD does in free agency. The titles in GS did very little for his legacy I believe. He might have sidled up close to Lebron as the 1a in the league, but he isn't even the most valuable player on his own team. If KD leaves and wins a ring elsewhere or even gets close to one like Bron did in Cleveland, it might be a different story. Until he does, it's Steph for me.
     
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    Why the hell is Brooks not fired yet. He has CLEARLY lost that team.

    I can understand being a weak team but freaking 2-9 when you have two all stars in John Wall and Bradley Beal then Otto Porter and that lineup. Something is going on over there
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.849f218b73ae

     
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    KD, because he is a very good defensive player. But Steph will be remembered as a bigger influence - we have seen players like KD before, but never seen anyone like Steph before.
     
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    So, this is you showing that Steph is leaps and bounds better than arguably the second-best shooter of all time?

    We agree.
     
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    If by "leaps and bounds better" you mean "takes a whole helluva lot more", then sure.
     
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    Volume matters. Nash himself has wondered how he would do if he just shot more.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Are you implying volume doesn't matter?
     
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    If he stays healthy and his speed doesn't give out.... then absolutely.
     
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    Sure. And I wonder how Curry would do if he didn't play on an all-star team.

    My initial post was in response to the idea that we have never seen a player like Curry before. I think Curry is quite similar to Nash - a player we've seen before. Curry shoots more, Nash passes more. But there are more similarities than differences, IMO.
     
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    I do not think that we ever saw Nash shooting from the distance curry does and reliably. Sure, there is similarities, but curry really warps the defense by himself in a way Nash never did.

    Nash has done a lot to distort the game with his passing and pace, but we have never seen anyone warping the defense by his shooting as Steph does
     
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    Never once in his career was Nash the primary scoring threat on his team. One year--when Amare was hurt--he was second on his team in FGA/game. Most years he was the 3rd or 4th option on offense. The difference between his role and Steph's is night and day.

    Steph's significantly greater volume (and the greater defensive attention he receives as a result) makes his higher efficiency vastly more impressive. Nash was much, much more Stockton than Curry.
     
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    Anyone have any idea what Jokic said that was worth getting fined for? I can't seem to find anything.

     
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    He's Mormon?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    OK, found more info.



     
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