OT CNN SUES WHITEHOUSE

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  1. Hoopguru

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    He did beat Hillary! lol
    I hope he doesnt in 2020.
    On other hand, maybe he will lose to someone other than the Dems best?
     
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  2. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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  3. Stevenson

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    What the government - be it the White House or City Hall - cannot do is censor based on whether they like the content or not. That tramples over the 1st Amendment, which people like @MARIS61 claim to love, but in fact don't.

    Trump is the most unAmerican president ever.
     
  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Sure--but does denying a press pass to a particular journalist equate to censorship? And is there any evidence that they dislike CNN's content any more than they dislike MSNBC's, or ABC's, or any of the other organizations Trump calls "fake news"?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, yes... Trump yells about CNN far more than any other organization.

    barfo
     
  6. bodyman5000 and 1

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    I repeat 5TH Amendment.

    Who gets to write the process by which these passes are given?

    If Trump does I have an idea...

    Reporters get to ask question in alphabetical order by last name starting with z and working backwards.

    Oh and LOL at Jim Acosta suffering "irreparable harm"
     
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  8. Stevenson

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    I think I stand corrected (for now) -

    "U.S. District Judge Timothy J. Kelly repeatedly emphasized that his decision to return Acosta's press pass as litigation continues was based on the Fifth Amendment, under which the judge ruled Acosta was denied his right to due process. Due process would give Acosta and CNN the chance to rebut and challenge the appropriateness of the government’s action."
     
  9. bodyman5000 and 1

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    Yep
     
  10. bodyman5000 and 1

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    What you're saying but having a hard time really saying is that bodyman is right.

    Is the Reflector still in circulation?

    One of you guys go get a job there and demand a white house press pass.

    FIRST AMENDMENT!!!!!!!!!

    I know you all hate Trump more than anything but get a grip people. The left sure loves the First Amendment when YouTube bans Alex Jones. Let's just try and be consistent ok?
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    It's still a First Amendment case. The lawsuit alleges the Whitehouse violated CNN's and Acosta's First and Fifth Amendment rights. Judge Kelly ruled that Acosta's Fifth Amendment rights had been violated and ordered his hard pass be returned until the court could further rule on the First Amendment violation.

    BNM
     
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    I'm not sure if you understand what the 1st Amendment is and the differeence between government and a corporation.
     
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    Sure there is
     
  14. bodyman5000 and 1

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    I'm 100 percent sure what the difference is. YouTube has every right to ban Alex Jones.

    Nobody is stopping Jim Acosta and CNN from reporting anything.

    I'm not sure why you guys don't understand the difference. A reporter for a video game magazine doesn't have a right to access the White House.

    Apparently there are some rules that have been written about how these passes are handled. Can't seem to find any reports on how they came to pass, if they are federal law or White House rules written by them.

    The judge says they didn't follow those rules. Rules can be changed.
     
  15. bodyman5000 and 1

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    They will lose the First Amendment case just like Alex Jones would. People sue all the time doesn't mean they'll win.

    Boy old Jim Acosta should pay his bills late and challenge late fees under the First Amendment.
     
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    One more question for y'all.

    There are rules for taking press passes away from people at the White House. The judge said they weren't followed.

    Soooooooooooo.....

    If you're going to interpret the First Amendment as the absolute right of freedom of the press shouldn't THOSE rules be unconstitutional?
     
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    Two strawmen in one short post. At least you're efficient.

    Acosta already won. He gets his hard pass back immediately. The First Amendment case will only serve to set a precedent, one way or the other.

    Yes, people sue all the time. Doesn't mean he'll lose. In fact, it's totally irrelevant. Each case is different.

    BNM
     
  18. Boob-No-More

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    Another strawman. Who here is interpreting the First Amendment as the absolute right of freedom of the press? No one. We're not that stupid. We all know the First Amendment is not absolute. That was established with Schenck v. United States almost 100 years ago. No one in this thread has proposed overturning that landmark precedent. Stop making things up.

    BNM
     
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    Why not just have out-of-control thug cops shoot reporters at random - then you can ride 2 of your high horses at once.
     
  20. CupWizier

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    One just needs to be a passive viewer of some of the news to know that Trump's preferred target is CNN as he pretty much bad mouths the network at every rally or press conference and much more than any of the other networks.
     
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