After passing a bill through the House that would ban abortion at six weeks, Ohio Republicans are considering legislation that would ban abortion completely in the state and make the procedure punishable by life in prison or even the death penalty. House Bill 565, sponsored by Ohio Sens. Rob Hood and Nino Vitale, allows for no exceptions for abortion in cases of rape, incest, or danger to a woman's life. Under the law, fetuses would be classified as "unborn humans," making abortion punishable under the Ohio criminal code. This means that a woman who receives an abortion and doctors who perform the procedure could face criminal penalties, ranging from a prison sentence to capital punishment. Unfortunately, floating criminal punishment for abortion is not an obscure idea among conservatives: In April, Idaho State Sen. Bob Nonini suggested that "anyone who has an abortion should pay." And, before he was elected, President Donald Trump said "there has to be some form of punishment" for women who undergo the procedure. https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/11/217323/ohio-abortion-ban-death-penalty
Personally, there's a significant difference between capital punishment and termination of an "innocent" human life. I have no cognitive issues with the government executing someone who has been convicted and sentenced according to law. Frankly, I don't think capital punishment is used enough. I think an issue here is the concept that one word (pro-life) is supposed to encompass the nuance of the issue, which is as flawed as "pro-choice" meaning I could choose to kill you for not giving me Suite Tickets.
How do they not see the irony in their position? All life is sacred (except when we say it's not). BNM
Morally speaking, I don't see how it's reasonable to be both pro-abortion and anti-capital punishment, yet most Democrats are. At least I can see how one could have the opposite viewpoints, since the people who actually get executed like Westley Allan Dodd are shockingly depraved and little fetuses are not.
Maybe you and @dviss1 and everyone else that thinks most of my posts are serious can do a group buy for a sarcasm detector.
These moron Republicans push normal people to the left with this crap. This ship sailed a long time ago. Sure the Democrats are hypocrites in reverse......whatever. If they don't realize that fighting something they can't win is pushing people away then they'll lose and be ledt wondering why.
If your body is the property of the state - where does this end? If you can use a woman as an incubator against her will, there is no legal or logical reason you can't harvest her organs against her will while she is still alive. You can adopt the radical INCEL position that women are required to provide sexual services. (the sponsers of this bill have already declared themselves pro-rape and pro-incest)
Same-sex couple carries same 'miracle' baby in what may be fertility world first DALLAS – Two Texas mothers each carried their "miracle baby" because of a medical advance that allowed them to do what they thought was otherwise impossible. Ashleigh Coulter, 28, and Bliss Coulter, 36, met six years ago and later were married. The couple who desired a baby knew that welcoming their own biological child would require a sperm donor, and some creativity. "Obviously, us being two women, we were like, 'How can we make this happen?'" Ashleigh said. "We felt like there has to be a way." It turned out there was a way for both women to carry their child. Fertility specialists Dr. Kathy Doody and her husband, Dr. Kevin Doody, of the CARE Fertility in Bedford, Texas, were the first to try reciprocal effortless in vitro fertilization using radical technology, which gave the Coulters a shot at motherhood. "We were just talking one night at home and I said, 'You know, I think we could use this for a same-sex couple,'" Dr. Kathy recalled. "And Kevin said: 'I think you're right. I think we could.'" Here's how the process works. It starts like traditional IVF. "Bliss went through the stimulation of her ovaries and the egg harvest," Kathy said. Instead of placing the sperm and Bliss' eggs into incubators in a lab, which is called reciprocal IVF and has been carried out for same-sex couples for years, they go into the chamber of the INVOcell device immediately after egg retrieval. The device is placed into Bliss' body for five days where early embryo development begins. "She got the embryo off to an early start," Kathy said. "The eggs fertilized in her body, and when they returned five days later, we removed the device and froze the embryos." Because embryos don't have livers, kidneys or lungs, traditionally, electromechanical devices like incubators are used in labs to remove toxins and try to maintain a supportive environment for the embryo. "It turns out, not surprisingly, that the woman's own body is a very good incubator," Kathy said, clarifying how INVOcell works. "We have livers, kidneys and lungs, so we're able to provide those same services to the embryo more naturally." Next, it was Ashleigh's turn. "Almost like passing the baton, like it's a relay race," Kathy said. Doctors evaluated Ashleigh's uterus, gave her estrogen and then progesterone, waited for the right time and transferred her wife's embryos to her body. They got pregnant on the first try. "She got to carry him for five days and was a big part of the fertilization, and then I carried him for nine months," Ashleigh said. "So that made it really special for the both of us – that we were both involved. She got to be a part of it, and I got to be a part of it." The cost of effortless IVF using INVOcell is about half the cost of traditional IVF, which usually runs $14,000 to $16,000 with medication. Reciprocal effortless IVF, the process Bliss and Ashleigh had, is about $8,000 with medication, compared with traditional reciprocal IVF involving lab incubators that costs $15,000 to $20,000. Kathy responded to critics who may believe the science is contrary to religious beliefs. "Well, I would respectfully disagree," Kathy said. "I think that family, relationship, children is exactly everything that was meant to be in our world." Stetson is a happy, healthy 5-month-old baby. Bliss and Ashleigh are busy with motherhood. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...aby-ivf-fertility-treatment-first/1804554002/
Ironically, what we really need are massive amounts of more abortions, starting in certain areas of the country that happen to be opposed to them.
