Blazers need 3 point scoring

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  1. beast crnjo

    beast crnjo Well-Known Member

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    What do you think of a hypothetical lineup of Meyers leonard, Meyers leonard, Meyers leonard, Meyers leonard, and Meyers leonard?

    Leonard could pass it to leonard off the leonard screen for a swish3. And in the unlikely event of a miss, Meyers leonard would be there for the offensive rebound.
     
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    Well Strenuus, I can rely on you to be laughing and commenting on thoughts recognizing the talent evident in the NBA leading playoff swish3 shooting percentage, which I do and you do not.

    You can rely on me to look for optimizing performance of Meyers, Nurk, Zach, Chief, Nik, Jeff, Evan, and others to add to the well recognized talent of the Dame - CJ back court to contend for the NBA Championship that seems increasingly possible this season. With a record of 12 of 17 and the WC lead, there is reason for optimism.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Almost 19,000 posts, and this is the contribution to the forum that brings me the most pride.

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Not to mention the occasional Meyers Leonard to Meyers Leonard lob pass for a dunk2!

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    It's not Meyers, it's his wife. He's on the road right now. Obviously, Mrs. swish3 spends her "alone" time differently than Mrs. HCP.

    But, who am I to judge? We all have our hobbies.

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    @swish3 During the game Meyers was WIDE OPEN for a swish3 right in front of Coach Stotts. I laughed so hard at coach's reaction to him not shooting that I had to pause the game and go back and show my wife.

    The point is it is impossible for Meyers to shoot the necessary amount of swish3s for global domination because he is too fucking hesitant.
     
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    When he doesnt think hes so much better...
     
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    I don't get it. Coach wants him to shoot the ball. He has the green light to do so. He's been yelled at to shoot the fucking ball. I would love that kind of confidence from a coach. I would shoot so many threes that I'd be at Curry level for attempt per game.

    Seriously though, if your coach wants you to shoot what is there to think about? Why the hell is he thinking? His eyes should light up every time he's left open and just let it fly. I don't get what is wrong with him mentally. Coach Stotts can't make it anymore clear that he wants him to shoot.
     
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    Its his slow shot, I think he knows he needs room to get it and he’s a poor judge of when he has the room or not. So he tries to gauge it and by the time he’s done that calculation he’s too late. I wish I wish the fans had a shoot it ML button we could press because apparently we can do that calculation a lot faster than him lol..
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    In spite of all the bitching about him passing up wide open 3-pointers, Meyers actually leads the team in made 3FGs per 36 minutes of playing time. Let that sink in a minute. Meyers Leonard actually makes more 3FGs per 36 minutes than all of Damian Lillard, C.J. McCollum, Nik Stauskas and Seth Curry.

    I posted after the sky box game that I'm totally fine with Meyers passing up wide open 3-pointers. If he's not comfortable taking the shot, he shouldn't take it - whatever the reason may be. Because, if he's not comfortable shooting it, he's probably not going to make it.

    Meyers's brain is like a single tasking operating system. It can only perform one task at a time, which means yelling at him in real time does absolutely no good. He can either focus on the task of shooting or the task of listening, but not both at the same time. By the time his brain is done processing what is being yelled at him, the defense has already reacted and he is no longer wide open, and therefore should not shoot. His brain is still running MS-DOS 1.0 when the rest of the league is running Windows 10.

    Seriously, if Meyers 7.0's biggest flaw is he doesn't shoot enough 3-pointers, I'll take it. It's a big improvement over Meyers 1.0 - Meyers 6.0.

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    His biggest flaw is still defense though, at least to my eyes. The thing his purpose for being out there is to be a giant human that can shoot, when he’s not shooting open shots its frustrating.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    He's actually been a plus defender this season. A plus defender that's shooting 52/52/100, setting good screens and getting an occasional assist is pretty good for a back up center. He's far from perfect and has 1 or 2 glaring mental lapses on defense per game which makes his overall defense look worse than it actually is. Because he doesn't block shots, people tend to only notice when he fucks up on defense. Thankfully, there is more to playing defense than blocking shots (and fucking up).

    Also, even when Meyers passes up a wide open 3-pointer, he's spreading the floor and creating open lanes for Dame, C.J. Nik, etc. to penetrate. If no one closes out on him he shoots it. If he starts with 5 or 6 ft. of space, hesitates and then sees the defender closing out, he passes it. Drawing a big out of the paint is always a good thing, even when you don't take the shot.

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    And sometimes he'd draw a foul and make a free throw1!
     
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    In seriousness, Meyers needs to stop passing up on those 3s. It would also be great if he had some kind of inside game beyond dunking.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Actually, I'm 100% fine with Meyers shooting nothing but swish3s, dunk2s and free1s. Those are the three things he does best and he's actually very good at all three. As a back up big man, I'd much rather see him focus on what he does best than try to expand his game. It's what made players like Ed Davis and Joel Pryzbilla fan favorites. They did what they did and did it well. I think Clint said it best:



    Because of the regular occurring brain farts on defense (although, in Meyers' case, I think brain shart is a more descriptive and accurate term), he'll never be a fan favorite the way Ed and Joel were, but if the only difference between Meyers 1.0 - 6.0 and Meyers' 7.0 is he recognizes his limitations and focuses on doing what he does best, that may be the single biggest improvement in his entire NBA career to date.

    And, in a backup center that plays 12 MPG, I'll gladly take that. Do what you do well and try to limit your mistakes as much as physically and mentally possible.

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    Your next task - make FT1 for an and-1 a thing.

    ... and go


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    OK, just caught up to the thread and I see that you are doing the free1. I approve and I am proud of you.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I actually proposed free1 last week to go with swish3 and dunk2.

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    I sit corrected and humbly request your forgiveness. How about a FuckYeah4 for these fantastic cases where someone fouls a swish3 and the free1 is converted?
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Lookie what I just found - the current NBA leaders in 3FG% from basketball-reference:

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    Two Currys and two Blazers in the top 4. Not bad at all.

    Any hatred Meyers 7.0 is receiving is purely irrational. I get that is stems from Meyers 1.0 - 6.0, but this year's Meyers is actually earning his paycheck. Here's how he's producing compared to some off the other back up big men who got PAID in the summer of 2016:

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    Notes:
    1) I did not include players who are actually injured (i.e. Joakim Noah)
    2) I did include Timofey Mozgov's 2017-18 stats. He's not actually injured. He just sucks so bad, he's 4th on the depth chart of a .500 team and hasn't played a minute all season.

    Meyers is outplaying them all. He leads the field in PTS/G and REB/G, as well as PTS/36 and REB/36. He also leads the others in ORtg and DRtg. In advanced stats, he leads the others in TS%, TRB%, WS/48, VORP and is lapping the field in BPM. He's clearly having the best season of the bunch. The others are all as old, or older, and have been in the league as long, or longer. The only one who is statistically close is Miles Plumlee, and he's playing fewer minutes on a last place team with a 3-14 record. In fact, Meyers is the only one playing on an above .500 team. He's actually playing solid back up minutes on the first place team in his conference.

    And then there is salary. All of these guys are making more money than Meyers. Like Meyers, all were signed to 4-year contracts during the summer of 2016.

    Biyombo:
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    Mozgov:
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    Mahinmi:
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    Plumlee:
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    Meyers:
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    BNM
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I propose we name the 4-pointer the antoine4 in honor of the legendary (in his own mind) Antoine Walker:

    Behold: The 4-pointer. Maybe the greatest basketball quote of all time comes, of course, from Antoine Walker. He was once asked why he shot so many 3s, and he responded "because there are no 4s."

    BNM
     
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