None of them do really in my opinion. When do you hear of a Boston singer in the discussion of one of the greats? But he was. Same with billy joel. His piano took the fore front but his voice is one of my favs of all time.
I think the theory with Turner is if you put the ball in his hands, you force the other team to guard him. If not, he'll just drive into the paint and score - which he is actually pretty good at: From 0 - 3 feet: Turner = .667 FG% Dame = .556 FG% C.J. = .538 FG% From 3 - 10 feet: Turner = .393 FG% Dame = .351 FG% C.J. = .412 FG% Since he can't shoot from 3, you need to surround him with guys who can space the floor. In theory, Curry could be one of those guys. In practice he isn't. This worked in BOS, because they surrounded him with good perimeter defenders that could shoot from down town. Curry is just an undersized version of Allen Crabbe. He's a 1-dimensional 3-point shooter who cannot create for himself, or others. He has been assisted on a very Crabbe-like .947 of his made 3-pointers. He is basically only effective as a stand still catch-and-shoot 3-point specialist. Basically, Crabbe minus $17 million in salary and 5" in height. BNM
Well Delp you probably have a genuine argument there. Joel probably doesn't because he's a moody drunk who pisses off even his old band mates. Hard to find people to champion your cause when you're a dick.
Sure. I mean why not throw someone else in there with Turner. It might work, I dont really think it will as I think the problem is Turner. Im not talking about his contract I just dont think he fits the system. Layman has definitely out performed Curry not questioning that, so go ahead and put him out there. I just dont think they’ll have a succesful bench (long term) as long as they try to run the offense through him, could be wrong maybe they put layman out there and they get way better. Maybe they bench both of them. Nik, Trent Jr, Layman, Zach and Meyers. No true PG, but theres a lot of shooting out there.
Look for one with Wally in the deadwax. I have a non-Wally and the Wally definitely sounds a lot better. You just inspired me to give it a spin now. Avoid the picture disk. Like most picture disks, it looks cool, but sounds like shit: BNM
They had a successful bench in BOS with Turner as the main ball handler. So, historically, it was proven to work. Terry just needs to find it out and surround him with the right players. Curry's one successful season was in DAL where he started at SG for a 33-win team that was dead last in the league in scoring. I just don't see how giving him more minutes and an expanded role will help. BNM
Fair enough. I think Turners had one good year. On a more talented Bench than Portlands. We could go round and round all day lol. Anyways I get it, if they benched Curry and put Layman out there I wouldnt be upset. They gotta do something. I know they just crushed Phoenix and hopefully that gets them going again. I just feel like the bench needs work, which I believe you agree with me at least that much. So try some new stuff. Also play Play Layman... Seriously why did they bench him, and why did I get the feeling if CJ’s back Layman will be back on the bench...
I like Layman with the second unit. He's actually playing better (significantly better) than Harkless, but he'll get more touches with the second unit than being the 5th option with the starters. Let Harkless get the Vonleh start, with more minutes and more shots for Layman. BNM
You expected anything else from Olshey? His career was 50% at PG until this season. It's still 47%, career. http://bkref.com/pi/shareit/fOupy
Bullshit. Give the minutes to the lineup that plays best as a group. If one of that group seems to be miraculously a part of successful groups despite his anemic contribution, so fucking what? Your job is success not meritocracy.
I agree. The best unit should get the minutes. I never said otherwise. However, if one player is dragging the rest down due to lack of production, it's time to look at a change. Remember back in early November when the Blazers had the second highest coring bench in the league? Well, they have now dropped to 20th in bench scoring. The bench has been abysmal lately, and Curry is the least productive player on the second unit. So, it's time for a change, and the change that makes the most sense is to try replacing the individual that is contributing the least. BNM
How do you measure "dragging the rest down"? Again, if AS A UNIT they are doing better THAN THE OPPONENT by the largest margin when he plays, how is that dragging anybody down?
Please provide stats and a source that shows recent 2nd unit performance with and without Curry. His play fails the eye test (to me, at least) and his individual contributions are almost non-existent. How do you know replacing him with a more productive player like Layman won't improve our second unit performance? I haven't looked it up, but until very recently Layman was getting the "Vonleh start" and playing very little with the second unit. If you have stats that show otherwise, please share them. BNM
