Politics What if it turns out the other side was right?

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  1. dviss1

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    You see the lengths they'll go to avoid giving a black man his props?

    For a black man to become president, we need to graduate from Harvard and Columbia, be the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, and be highly accomplished and intelligent. We also need to turn out the most people who ever voted in an election.

    The fact that anyone could even think Obama wasn't intelligent... IMO they're only saying that because he's black.... Fuck that...
     
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    There are a multitude of investigations currently tasked with investigating the Clintons, some Trump supporters, corrupt present and former FBI/DOJ/DOS,IRS employees, conducted by many different agencies, IG's, SC's, and private firms.

    I'll wait for the dust to settle.
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    If Trump is indicted it will be for financial fraud, not collusion. I'm okay with it if it happens. He has served his purpose.
     
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    Financial fraud, obstruction of justice, and witness tampering to begin with
     
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    The office of President is the only office where qualifying for being Natural born is required. All after the original founders, which were excepted in the Constitution.

    "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. "
     
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    Are you suggesting that the only people who can be president are those who were born in states that were states before 1786?
     
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    He is a natural born citizen. He was born in the State of Hawaii. He was born in 1961 two years after Hawaii became a state. He is an American Citizen, naturally born.
     
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    Is this what you understand from the paste? It was copied straight from a legitimate copy of the Constitution?
    Perhaps you want to ask a question that needs and answer.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think I'm going to start claiming that the founders didn't mean:

    "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

    but instead meant:

    "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President;

    So nobody alive today is eligible.

    barfo
     
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    It was a good question. What is your reasoning then if that is not the case?
     
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    I gather you feel the requirement in the Constitution for the president to be a Natural Born Citizen is superfluous, where Natural Born Citizen and Citizen are the same.

    No, I do not think this was the original intent at all.
     
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    A clue would be, the reason they had to except themselves from the requirement of being Natural Born Citizens. Many were not
    as understood in the definition of the term in Natural law.
     
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    and what was his purpose? to embarrass the USA? Yes, he has done that better than anyone.
     
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    Stop bullshitting and answer the question...

    "What if it turns out the other side was right?"
     
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    Literally zero chance.

    Mueller has all the intercepts.
     
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    Great, so we won't be seeing any of your long winded worthless drivel posts complaining about the investigation then. Thanks
     
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    I think you can expect the definition of the United States is correct through the expansion of additional States.

    Sorry, I inferred incorrectly that you were asking if the candidate had to be born before 1786.
     
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    MarAzul and Maris: On a scale of 1-10, 1 being a box of rocks and 10 being supremely intelligent, where you do rank Trump and where do you rank Obama?
     
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    Ok riddler. So, what is your qualm? You said you accepted that he was born in Hawaii, part of the United States. Is his father your reason?

    They made an acception for themselves because they were born in England, and they did not want to be ineligible. So, your interpretation is that it must be them or people decended from them and those who were already were in the US at the time of the signing? That, no decendants from further immigrants could be considered naturally born citizens?
     
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    Collusion is not a crime. He most certainly won't be indicted for that.

    Conspiracy is a crime.

    He could very well be indicted for that.

    And what's this purpose you speak of, taking down the Republican party?
     
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