Trade Ideas Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BonesJones, Apr 28, 2018.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    Well of course that would be awesome but why would the Bulls take an extra year of Turner instead of just waiving Parker after the season?
     
    BonesJones likes this.
  2. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    12,402
    Likes Received:
    6,323
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't blindly support Trump - so I must hate America!

    No....just no.
     
  3. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    WTF? What does that have to do with anything I posted? You're projecting a false narrative from my post.
     
  4. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    12,402
    Likes Received:
    6,323
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How is it false? You clearly equated being a Blazer fan with loyalty to Olshey and Stotts.
     
    LayneStaley, Scalma and BonesJones like this.
  5. PHXBlazer1

    PHXBlazer1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    7,090
    Likes Received:
    4,566
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Eugene
    Ya I don't get why the Suns signed Ariza and Crawford...did they actually think they'd be a playoff team with a couple vets? I can understand why Crawford would sign there at this point in his career because I used to live down there and its a great place to be in the winter..but from the teams perspective I don't get it
     
    hoopsjock likes this.
  6. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    Actually I didn't.
     
  7. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    Go for it. And then list the teams record so far. All 30 teams.
     
  8. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2014
    Messages:
    23,631
    Likes Received:
    34,981
    Trophy Points:
    113
    AcTuAlLy i DiDnT
     
    LayneStaley likes this.
  9. James lamphear

    James lamphear Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2018
    Messages:
    7,881
    Likes Received:
    5,559
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Don't mind me I was just throwing something out there.
     
    hoopsjock likes this.
  10. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    It would be great if the Bulls would do it!
     
    BonesJones likes this.
  11. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,536
    Likes Received:
    38,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Lets get a little wild... If the season isn't going well at the deadline, this would be fun. This is a 4-team trade but essentially, Sacremento is simply taking on bad contracts to get a 1st round pick. Since Portland is trading the best player, they dictate terms and part of the deal is them shedding bad contracts. Lots of fringe-NBA players involved for salary purposes so I color coded it. Green is the main pieces in the trade. Blue is picks. Gray is meaningless filler contracts. Red is unwanted contracts. Black is a PG swap for mainly salary purposes. For fun, rate the deal between 1-5 for all teams involved.

    POR Gets: Mohamed Bamba, 2019 ORL 1st, Wesley Johnson, Zach Randolph, Ben McLemore, Jerian Grant, $25M TPE (C.J. McCollum),
    ORL Gets: C.J. McCollum, Elfrid Payton, Solomon Hill
    NOP Gets: Terrence Ross, D.J. Augustin, Jarrell Martin (TPE), Meyers Leonard, Future 2nds
    SAC Gets: Evan Turner, Johnathan Simmons, 2019 NOP 1st, Jahlil Okafor

    Orlando gets McCollum/Payton/Hill for Bamba/2019 1st/Augustin/filler contracts. (I rate this a 3.5)
    - Orlando is hovering around .500 and the 8th seed, and this is the type of trade they're known for. They need a guard that can score at a high level. They might want to keep Vucevic so that might make Bamba expendable for them. The PG swap is pretty even. Hill is an anchor contract they take on to make this trade happen.

    New Orleans gets Ross/Augustin/Leonard/Martin/2nds for Hill/Payton/Johnson/Okafor/'19 1st (I rate this a 4)
    - New Orleans gets Ross, who's improved a lot this year and gives them some much needed wing help. Augustin is an upgrade over Payton due to Payton's injury issues. The swap out Hill's bad contract for Meyers' slightly cheaper bad contract to make salaries work. They give up a 1st for future 2nds to make this work.

    Sacremento gets Turner/Simmons/Okafor/'19 NOP 1st for Randolph/McLemore/Cap Space (I rate this a 4.5)
    - Sacremento has no pick in 2019, so adding one for their cap space makes a lot of sense. They also need some SF depth, so Turner/Simmons might be able to slightly help them.

    Portland gets Bamba/'19 ORL 1st/$25M TPE/expiring filler contracts for McCollum/Turner/Leonard (I rate this a 5)
    - This sheds $22.5M in salary for this season, and clears up apx. $46M for next off-season. Portland adds Bamba, and a Collins/Bamba frontcourt is an insane duo with great potential, as both have the potential to be elite rim protectors while also being agile enough to switch and run the court. They can also both post up and hit 3s, spacing for each other as well as the perimeter players. Getting another pick in the top 20 would be nice and allow Portland to be able to trade up for a guy like Hachimura. Portland could also trade Nurkic for wing help or cap space and slot Collins/Bamba into the lineup. I'd love to see Portland trade Nurkic for a guy like Taurean Prince and one of Atlanta's 1st/2nd round picks.

    A core of Lillard, Bamba, Collins, Hachimura, and Prine is very solid, and the frontcourt is almost covered with decent, young, cheap two-way players. Portland would also have apx. $60M in cap space for next off-season, to go after guys like Klay Thompson (come home to Portland?), and Julius Randle. I think we could land Randle on a 2-year max contract (2nd year is a team option), and he'd be a great fit with Collins/Bamba at C since they can both shoot and space for Randle. Jeremy Lamb & Tyreke Evans on something like 1-year, $15M deals would probably be possible too. This would preserve $60M in cap space for 2020. This would be our lineup:

    Dame (36) / Tyreke (12)
    Lamb (33) / Tyreke (15)
    Prince (30) / Hachimura (15) / Tyreke (3)
    Collins (16) / Randle (32)
    Bamba (32) / Collins (16)

    That team might just be better than this years team. They'd certainly be better set up for the future with much more flexibility.
     
  12. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,536
    Likes Received:
    38,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    I would at least explore a two-team trade involving McCollum for Bamba and filler, and then try to shed salary in the off-season.
     
  13. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    Maybe Sacramento out of all of those teams would do that but the other teams wouldn't.
     
  14. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,581
    Likes Received:
    58,892
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A 4 team, 17 player trade? Never will happen.
     
    BonesJones likes this.
  15. James lamphear

    James lamphear Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2018
    Messages:
    7,881
    Likes Received:
    5,559
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If we get GM that use some of that huge TPE we get another quality player.
     
  16. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,536
    Likes Received:
    38,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    You don't think Orlando would?
     
  17. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,536
    Likes Received:
    38,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    No duh...

    It's a fun little hypothetical.
     
    oldmangrouch and Chris Craig like this.
  18. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    Not for CJ. They're giving up Bamba, a 1st round pick, take on a bad contract (2 if you count CJ), and have to have Elfrid back. I think that would be a huge no from them.

    They are the Magic though so I guess "anything is possible".
     
    TBpup likes this.
  19. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    I don't think they're going to give up on Bamba that easy either. I thought that was one of the worst teams for Bamba to go to develop. You and I were both super high on him. I also thought the Suns were a terrible landing spot for Mikal Bridges.
     
  20. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    19,824
    Likes Received:
    23,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Baby Daddy
    Location:
    Chasing my kids
    The Suns are a terrible landing spot for anyone right now, which is actually kind of sad because I generally kind of like the Suns.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page