Around the NBA: December to Remember 2018

You're saying that didn't happen to DL or are you proving my point by not giving a fuck about it!

 

Person 1: Cookies!
Dviss: What Person 1 said was racist and since youre white you cant say not!

 

Or that nobody's arguing that theres mor racism out there and that scenario doesnt apply to Mark Cuban making statements about the AAU system compared to Euro-system.

 

I have to admit this debate puzzles me. Would being critical of the NBA or NCAA make somebody racist? Cuban has done both. What is it about the AAU that inspires such an emotional response from people on both sides of the debate?

 

I'm going to simply stand by my opinion that what you said was absolutely ridiculous. But to get an understanding we could go back to your original statement.

It's always funny to me when people who might experience racism are the first to classify who does and who doesn't experience racism. Then they also want to try to tell others what is and isn't racism.

 

Stop. This is fucking bullshit bones.

 

People who say the above statements have never experienced racism.

 

You have the right to keep thinking that. But you simply do not understand how stupid this would make you look if you had a clue who i was.

 

It's not that hard. Couple things:

Not every kid who makes it to the NBA plays AAU.

He didn't say shit about the AAU system. He specifically said:

'Take the best kids 7 years before they're an McDonald's all American" (those kids would be 4th and 5th graders)

Then denounced the things black people do like "taunt" and "put together mixtapes".

He's talking about and denouncing basketball culture. Culture that has been created by black people.

 

@dviss1
I absolutely understand that I have never dealt with Racism the way most (if not all Blacks) have. I didn't really read Cubans comments and think that's racist, or really about race at all. I immediately thought of my personal experiences with HS / AAU and my families experiences as well. I will certainly not deny there could be racial motivation to what he said that I didn't get.
I don't want to get into an argument with you, I literally just would like help in understanding why some people have taken it as a purely racist comment, with racist intent.
Respectfully, even if you would rather do it in a private convo could you help me understand why from your perspective, it's a racist comment.

Also what I do to combat racism, is pretty easy... I help those in need, no matter what color they are. I respect people no matter what color they are, or what they believe. I teach my kids to love people. I try to call it out when I see it, I don't stand idly by when someone's getting beaten up, or mocked because of their race and yes I've actually seen it and gotten in fights with white kids who were doing it.

Anyways you may very well be right, and it was racist. I can see that "partially" and I know Cuban has a history of things too. Personally, for anyone who is different than me, whether it's color, creed, gender, etc. I feel like the least they can do is help me to understand what they're going through, or why they take things differently than I do. I can't walk in other people's shoes (figuratively), just like no one here knows what it's like to be me. I try to be a respectful, caring person so I can assure you I didn't read it differently just because I don't want to see it.

Sorry if you already explained it to me and I missed.

 

Sorry you can ignore my other post. I didn't see this.

 

NBA analysts are usually experts in their field.

 

You denounce anyone who interprets vague, non-blatant comments comments as not racist. I've never experienced racism. Doesnt mean im blind. Doesnt mean you're the only one who can see racism or objectively interpret comments in a different way than you.

That's an extreme anology.

 

You're a cool cat. I appreciate you. Thanks for listening.

 

Please tell me who I denounced in this thread... That literally didn't happen. Telling someone they've never experienced racism isn't denouncing anyone...

You tried to say when I told my son that once the white people pick it up (regarding our culture/dabbing/dances etc) that it's time for him to put it down and create something new, that that was racist.

It's not.

 

D, as a referee what is your take on taunting starting in elementary school?
Now, I don't know Cubans heart but don't you think he was talking about taunting as something that shouldn't be allowed in the game and the teaching regardless where starts with youngsters.
Because he was referring to an academy of basketball, Im quickly thinking about teaching and coaching with a certain game/court discipline that helps mold character.

 

You obviously didnt understand that I was joking, not understand the underlying context that related it to what goes in in here.

 

My own experience (playing) is that's how basketball has always been. That's been the culture. People have always talked shit while playing. Sometimes it got pretty intense and yes there were fights.

My experience while refereeing is that it rarely happens (to a level that requires a penalty). In my 16 years of refereeing, I've never had a fight on my floor.

When Cuban talks about taunting her should talk to Dirk about how he tells players to start learning Chinese.

And Cuban was referring to the culture.

 

I didn't think that was a joke, nor did I get it...

 

Obviously.