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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Going back to a trade posted from a Dallas forum, I think I've broken the code. It involves 4 teams but part of it could be broken into smaller trades if necessary, it was just easier to show as one.

    Dallas gets CJ and Turner

    Washington gets Harrison Barnes and Aminu

    Phoenix gets Dennis Smith Jr

    Portland gets Otto Porter, Wes Matthews, and Mikal Bridges

    Dallas fans wanted to do this because they thought CJ would be a much better fit with Luka than DSJ is. Washington gets two quality players and saves a ton of future money. Phoenix gets a PG upgrade.

    Portland completely reshapes their wing rotation with Dame and Nurk still the main focus of the starting lineup. Our starting lineup becomes pretty dang good with Dame, Wes, Harkless, Porter, and Nurk. Then we have Mikal on the 2nd unit for now ready to take over a starting spot next season since Wes is expiring. That gives us all kinds of switchability on defense.

    Who says no on this one?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Certainly not me.

    Not exactly sure why the Mavs would want Turner in place of Matthews.
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    I was trying to put Lamb in there for you too but 5 team trades are too crazy. I wonder if Charlotte would do Marvin Williams and Lamb for Wes saving them a bunch of money next year?
     
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    I think they thought getting CJ would take more than Barnes and DSJ (Dallas fans are pretty down on both) so taking on Turner's contract was the incentive for Portland to do it.
     
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    I think it’s time to explore expiring contracts we could get for Leonard and our pick. Realistic destinations would be teams that aren’t players in the FA market/rebuilding.

    Here are some possibilities:

    Nikola Mirotic- NOP
    Zach Randolph- SAC
    Alec Burks- CLE
    Iman Shumpert- SAC
    Terrence Ross- ORL
    Jared Dudley- BRK
    Kosta Koufus- SAC
    Markieff Morris- WAS
    Jerryd Bayless- MIN
    Darrell Arthur- PHX
    Dewayne Dedmon- ATL
    Wesley Johnson- NOP

    Mirotic would be ideal, but I’m not sure where the Pelicans are as a franchise. My guess is they want to put together the best possible team to sell AD on staying, so we could probably forget him.

    Ross would be my next target, plus he’s from Portland. Would give the blazers an advantage if they decided they wanted to re-sign him. I don’t think Orlando would be against taking on Meyers, no top free agent is going there anyway.
     
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    Bogdan Bogdanovic would be useful.
     
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    What's the motivation for this? I don't think dumping Meyers and one year remaining after this one is worth losing a pick.
     
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    I've never figured out what all the attraction is for Otto Porter. I get that he's more consistent than Harkless and probably has a wider skill-set. But he's not an all-star level talent and he's already 25.

    one of biggest issues with CJ is that he's not all-star level but has a near max contract. He's overpaid substantially and that contract is a significant obstacle to Portland exercising any flexibility. Porter has an identical contrat. Trading CJ for Porter just trades one bloated contract for another. It would not alter Portland's trajectory much at all....not like it would if CJ had been traded for Paul George or Jimmy Butler or Kawhi Leonard. Those would have been risks worth taking. I don't know that CJ for Porter is a risk worth taking, but I guess any step that alters the rhythm on a treadmill is worth trying...hell, at a certain point in time, just crashing off a treadmill is better than staying on
     
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    I wouldn't trade CJ for Porter. I'd trade Aminu and Turner and pick(s) however.
     
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    I wouldn't trade CJ for Porter straight up but the jewel of my trade is getting Mikal Bridges. We need a young stud wing. As for Porter, he's a 40% career 3 point shooter so the thought is if he was in Aminu's role getting all those wide open 3's that it would be better for the offense. Plus he was a playmaker in college so maybe he's being underutilized in Washington. I agree that his contract is really bad and comparable to CJ.
     
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    Flexibility. I believe it would open up the full MLE, and it would also make it easier to re-sign someone like Aminu. Could be wrong, although I know dumping Turner would.
     
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    CJ/Meyers to Detroit

    Blake Griffin (+?) to Portland

    Fight me.
     
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    Naw, where do I sign?
     
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    I don't think anybody mentioned a swap of CJ and Porter. Just getting him with the rest of ours "assets". CJ for one of those guys is not a risk, it's a bad trade for the other teams. You will not get an All Star with CJ, not even close. Especially as he is showing more and more that he is empty scorer with no D or playmaking skills.
     
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    But why would Washington? I get saving money, but I don’t remember the last time a player of Porters caliber was salary dumped, which is essentially what this is.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Was thinking about this idea earlier today. Detroit is (I think) 3-12 in their part 15. Perhaps they're ready to blow up.

    Reggie Bullock perhaps?
     
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    Blake might be one guy Olshey would consider trading CJ for.

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    Stanley Johnson is one player they seem to want to move on from. He's been on the block for two straight summers.

    By the time Blake is on a noticeable decline, Zach Collins ought to be ready.

    The Warriors can't guard Nurk, imagine if we had Griffin alongside him.
     
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    Id need assets to take on that Griffin contract
     
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    CJ/Meyers/and our pick for Blake and Bullock? They can throw in an expiring to even out the money since they’re close to the tax line.

    Dame
    Bullock
    Harkless
    Griffin
    Nurkic

    Yum.
     
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