Quick calls out Stotts etc

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  1. CupWizier

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    That makes perfect sense to delete those posts or modify them. I will modify my first one but then many other posts going after me should be deleted as well as it's funny how scalma blames me for derailing a thread that he has made about 4 or 5 posts to me and about me and nothing about the topic. If anyone is to blame for derailing a thread it's him.
     
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    Quick was on a podcast with Eric Gunderson and re-iterated much of what is in this article. Also mentioned how Neil is very unlikely to give up "his" guys like Collins and CJ for much less than a top 5 player. Even then, he'd apparently balk at the thought.
     
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    What’s hilarious about the Stotts/McCollum relationship is that McCollum was our backup POINT GUARD up until this year, when Olshey pretty much forced a change. I can see why Stotts would be so defensive about a question regarding Mccollums other “skills”
     
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    Jfc
     
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    I'm not blaming anyone in particular. You're all adults, and you are blamed equally for allowing it to grow and grow instead of trying to stem the tide.
     
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    Napier played a lot of PG last year. Between Lillard, Napier and Turner, McCollum didn't play as much at PG.
     
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    Napier barely played when it counted and Turner was mainly used off the ball.
     
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    As usual Quick needs to insert himself into the story.
     
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    I really don't have a problem with any of it, the questions Quick asked or the way stotts answered. I do have some problems with the way that CJ answered. My main confusion was why cup responded to scalma the way he did, I don't know their history it's just his op here in this thread didn't seem to fit the response of Quick is a hack that's why you must like him. I don't really care to get involved with whatever their issues are I assume they're adults and can figure it out.

    Anyways, CJ really does have an issue of if he isn't scoring I'm not sure how helpful he is as he's not really good at much else. There was talk of him being better at setting up his teammates but that hasn't panned out, which I think some of that is just the fact they aren't really letting him run point in the 2nd unit, and he just doesn't seem to be much different than he has been when he is the primary ball handler.
     
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    Napier averaged almost 21 minutes a game and Turner often ran the point with CJ and Lillard in the game as well so as to relieve the pressure from Lillard. 37 minutes from Lillard and 21 minutes from Napier with only 48 minutes available at PG doesn't leave much time for McCollum running the point unless you can demonstrate that Lillard played off the ball for more than 15-20 minutes a game.
     
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    The perfect answer would be that even if CJ is struggling shooting the other team always has to account for where he is on offense and he rarely gets left alone like a bad shooter would. Having CJ on the floor does help with the spacing of the offense.

    It's still a non-answer but you can't really fact check it either so it's hard to make fun of or complain about it. By saying nothing he isn't really standing up for CJ. I mentioned this in the Thunder game thread but until this organization concedes that CJ shouldn't be treated as a star nothing is going to change.
     
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    Napier didn’t play in two of the four playoff games, I don’t give a fuck how many minutes he averaged during the regular season (where his minutes gradually decreased as the season went on btw)

    Stotts clearly didn’t trust him enough when it actually mattered.
     
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    Do you consider McCollum one of best scoring threat on the team? Now I know Nurkic has been beasting lately but being a scoring threat that defenses have to scheme for is a luxury for a team. We don't have very many scorers. Imagine if we had a Harkless or Aminu as the shooting guard. Good players but are often played off of because of the lack of a real threat, but they get lots of open looks because of McCollum and Lillard. As for my comment to scalma, yes there is a history as almost any time I respond to a post of his he comes back with a snarky response and telling me to put him on ignore where as he could accomplish what he wants by putting me on ignore. He apparent;y gets worked up over opposing views.
     
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    Okay, so why didn't Stotts just say that then instead of not answering the question?
     
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    That simply isn;t true as he averaged 20.7 minutes for the season and the last month he played

    21.2 min in April

    18.6 in March

    20.0 in February

    24.9 in January

    25.1 in December

    20.5 in November

    Now how is that barely playing the end of the season? Looks pretty consistent to me. Not sure the relevance of a 4 game playoff series as you also never mentioned playoffs in your initial response that Napier barely played as I was talking an 82 game season.
     
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    I see CJ as one of the best at creating his own shot. What's CJ doing that Seth couldn't do though at this point if he's shooting that bad? Teams would have to guard Seth just as much as they guard CJ which would lead to open shots. Whats interesting is when CJ starts dribbling most teams don't double him or anything they play him straight up, it's not like he is sucking the defense in when he has the ball. I'm not saying Seth is better than CJ. Just saying that CJ is out there to score and when he isn't scoring he's just a guy who is there to keep the defense honest, and there are other's who can do that. CJ is probably the best one and on perimeter player on the team in terms of being able to create his own shots. Just when he isn't making them, his impact on the game is really, really low.
     
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    If Quick had a history as an objective analyst, the question would have come off very differently. Coming from a guy with a long history as a de facto gossip columnist, it (understandably) set off alarm bells.
     
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    Do you think Quick has the respect of the players and management of the Blazers? As for why Stotts didn't say that? You'd have to ask him that. It was a tough game, a tough loss and he stated he wasn't going to go down that line of questioning for the reason he knows Quicks history and style. The reality is we are fans and only fans. We aren't privy to all the details and no matter how much you want to know it simply isn't going to happen. This forum loves to speculate and often times goes down wild rides with that speculation and for all we know Stotts (or someone from the coaching staff) has been working with McCollum.
     
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    So like Olshey, Stotts won't take questions that aren't softballs?
     
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    Bingo.When you burn bridges trying to constantly create controversy, you're not going to get the respect back from players and management so you're not going to get the info you want and like you mentioned his history points to what he really wants.
     
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