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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    You really don't like any change huh? :bgrin:
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Oh duh... Yeah then I do it, because we'd need something at that position.
    Lillard (36) / Curry (12) / Baldwin / Simons
    Lee (30) / Curry (18) / Trent
    Layman (20) / Harkless (28) / Hill
    Davis (18) / Aminu (30) / Swanigan
    Nurkic (31) / Davis (17) / Meye
     
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    Not me to much to give up for Gordon? Zack will be a better 4/5 in time. I like Gordon but he's injury prone, imo.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Aaron Gordon is extremely overrated. Puts up decent numbers on a bad team with below-average efficiency and mediocre defense. Doesn't create for others, and given his athleticism and position, he's a mediocre rebounder as well.

    Not a fan.
     
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    Agreed, that is why I was trying to pawn him off on some other team. I think strictly from a PR point of view that isn't too bad of value for Anthony Davis.
     
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    I don't like moves that just take us sideways and bringing in big contracts at this time unless it is a major upgrade. Like I mentioned, we're only another season away from having these contracts come off the books. Gordon is a good player, but just doesn't excite me long term and some of these other deals that cost us a first round pick and Collins.

    Probably why I don't play fantasy leagues as deals are all over the place many times and not a realistic representation of what actually happens in the NBA. By the way, whatever happened to you guys that started with the draft and then just seemed to die?
     
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    I'm not just talking about the Gordon trade, you seem to poo-poo every single trade on this site.

    The mock off season ended when several of the GM's vanished when we were setting up the free agency stuff. Once the real free agency started it kind of made finishing it pointless. Next summer we'll start it right away so it isn't rushed at the end though.
     
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    I think it would be realistic if the unrealistic scenario of every team getting a new GM happened at the same time but that is unrealistic too. For me, I try to best represent what I think that team would want me to do. If everyone did that it would be a little better but it usually doesn't work out that way.
     
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    I've never been a huge supporter of Aaron Gordon, because I don't necessarily think a CJ for Gordon swap makes us any better overall. I dunno how one would say he doesn't create for others, however. Assist rate, and percentage are different across different sites, but with ESPN's, he has a 17.4 assist rate. That's better than Otto Porter. Bradley Beal, Jimmy Butler. Better than CJ. Better than Steph. Better than Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis. He averages 3.4 assists per game. That seems pretty solid from the PF spot, IMO. And of course, all that is while playing on a bad team. I think his rebounding can be partially attributed to the season Vucevic is having on the boards, as well as being, again, on a bad team. He's not far off from where Aminu is as a rebounder, and that works ok for us, because we have good rebounding 1-5.

    Of course, all that being said, a CJ for Gordon deal doesn't excite me. Collins and Turner is very intriguing though.
     
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    My main issue with Gordon is his contract. We aren't far away from being out from under our large contracts from a few years ago and Gordon would extend it another year, If we can get a favorable contract for Aminu, I think we would be better off rather than losing Collins and a first round pick. If this was maybe 2 years ago and we had these guys on the books for a few more years then maybe, but even then a lottery pick and a first round pick is a lot to give up. I'd want a better player than Gordon.
     
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    One aspect I like of his contract is that it is a declining deal. 19, 18, 16, which is more helpful for future balancing of books than if it was reversed at 16,18, 19.
     
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    Ya, that is a positive part but he is still owed 16+ mil at the end. I was also mistaken as Gordon's contract goes 2 years beyond Turner and Leonard. That would be 18.1 and 16,4mil in his last 2 years. Next year with Turner and Leonard both expiring we might be able to work a deal that might even bring back an asset or two that can be used or dealt.
     
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    The interesting thing about all the trades are whomever you get back will have a weakness or multiple, whether its contract, styles, cant shoot, cant play d, whatever.

    So when I think about it Id like the Blazers to go after a guy who can create as I think the Blazers weakness is mostly they need more guys who can get their own shot when Dame is locked up or having a bad game. CJ can but he’s streaky, Nurkic is becoming the real / 2nd option. Id love a wing who could do that (most teams would). In that aspect Aaron Gordon fits that role but they’d have to give up CJ which is sort of a lateral move.

    Anyways love this thread you guys some interesting ideas.
     
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    The Gordon trade I brought into here from the Bucks Forum didn't involve CJ.

    I added CJ in order to get Anthony Davis.
     
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    I saw that. It was more a general comment. Not neccesarily directed at that.
     
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    On Liberty Ballers someone made a thread about trading Ben Simmons for Dame. Seems most 76ers fans wouldn't do it or know that Portland wouldn't do it.
     
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    I agree. If we can get a solid starting small forward that can consistently contribute 15, 6 and 3 with the occasional 25 point game or there about and either trade Mo and make Layman the back up or move Harkless to back up would make us a more dangerous team
     
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    This recent bad play by the Pistons has them completely souring on Griffin (even though he's not the problem).

    One Pistons suggestion was Turner, Leonard, and Collins for Blake (and another small asset).

    As much as I like Collins still, this trade would be huge for us even with Blake's injury history and horrible contract.
     
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    Another one I saw was a 3 team trade between Boston, Detroit, and Portland. In the end we basically get a crappier version of one of the CJ trades I mentioned with Detroit in the Trade Idea Thread.

    DET: Gordon Hayward, CJ McCollum, Aron Baynes, Seth Curry, Daniel Theis, 2019 Celtics First Rounder (they have 4)

    BOS: Andre Drummond, Langston Galloway, Glen Robinson III

    POR: Reggie Jackson, Stanley Johnson, Luke Kennard, 2019 Pistons First Rounder



    I posted a counter proposal of:

    Detroit gets CJ, Hayward, Theis, Stauskas, and Swanigan

    Boston gets Drummond, Galloway, GR3

    Portland gets Jackson, Kennard, Bullock, and Detroit 1st

    We could try and flip Jackson somewhere else. Getting two young wings and a pick isn't a bad return for CJ in my opinion but it's still not that great.
     
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    Done deal. I hate that contract, but that is unbelievable value and a risk we should take given the cost. Who posted this?
     
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