Game Thread GAME# 45: BLAZERS @ KINGS - JANUARY 14, 2019 - MONDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

Well you might call out most of our guys in that department tonight.

 

Yea but look at the last 4 of 5 games we have lost that have been close recently. At the end everyone looks confused on D and offensive as well. If it wasnt' for Dame just saying "fuck it" we would be so screwed.

 

Shumpert is messing with the wrong one then.

 

It really depends on the trade but CJ's value is probably the lowest it will be at the moment and a bad package for CJ isn't a good thing. Terrance Ross, Augustine and a heavily protected 1st that won't convey for a few years, anything along those lines is not a good thing for us imo.

 

Tough loss, it’s hard to win on the road. Back to back. And they play with a lot of energy, we have great chances but nurkic and chief missing key FTs, and they are just more hungry than us. Next one Cleveland at home: must win game and Big night for CJ

 

I'm sure this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but with Dame's 35 points tonight, he crossed over the 12,000 career points threshold as a Blazer. Way to go Dame!



Only 550 more points to go to catch Aldridge. I'm looking forward to that night!

 

I definitely agree on that example but I also suspect that even with his slump he has more value than we believe at this moment due to our personal fan frustrations.

 

Chemdawg is not a good strain.

 

Big fat "who gives a fuck?" given that we have zero context.

 

Layman starting play some really good basketball lately.

 

"The other side" on a Kings forum for this thread would be classic hahahaha

 

Shooting 11-15 for .733 in the last 2 games and one of misses was a dunk.

On the other side, 9-33 for .272 for MeJ in the last 2 games.

Call me crazy, but couldn't a few of MeJ's shots gone to Jake?

 

* last thing first: the notion that somehow Turner's contract will be more trade-able when it's expiring is bogus. Olshey was the biggest idiot in 2016, but he wasn't the only stupid GM. The NBA will have an ocean of expiring contracts next season and it will be light-years away from a seller's market

* I really don't know why so many people are clinging so hard, in their minds, to Portland's 2019 first round pick (I don't mean you Rhal). I'd move it in a micro-second to get Turner in another uniform. If you're worried about Portland missing out on something, maybe you should check out the last 5 times Portland added a player with a pick in the 20's:

22 Victor Claver
22 Elliot Williams
21 Nolan Smith
26 Caleb Swanigan
24 Anfernee Simons

not exactly a ringing endorsement for value

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I wish people would quit saying CJ is in a slump or that he's an efficient shooter. Neither assertion is true.

eFG%:

2014-15 .511
2015-16 .517
2016-17 .544
2017-18 .506
2018-19 .517

TS%:

2014-15 .534
2015-16 .544
2016-17 .585
2017-18 .536
2018-19 .544

he's basically right at his norms. He had a career year in 16-17 that looks like an aberration, but he's been real consistent otherwise. Considering that the league average for TS% is right around 55%, saying he's "efficient" is clearly false

now, it's true he's way off in 3 point% this year. But his FG% and 2ptFG% are at career highs. But that's the way it goes for lower tier players. It's like bop-a-mole...one thing will go up but another will go down

 

Would it be better if we were blown out? Can’t win every game.

 

beer and chips

 

Completely agreed that although Olshey f***d up the most, he wasn't the only offender and there will be a lot of other bad contracts that are ending.

As for a 20's Draft pick, they haven't been great and I don't think that should get in the way of a trade....but at the same time, there has been value in the 20's. We just haven't been the recipient of it.

2009: Victor Claver....picked just ahead of Casspi, Taj Gibson and DeMarre Carroll.
2010: Elliot Williams...not much right after. Damian Jones, Jordan Crawford....and Hassan Whiteside and Lance Stephenson early in the 2nd.
2011: Nolan Smith...this gets ugly. Farid, Mirotic, Reggie Jackson, Cory Joseph...and Jimmy Butler right after Smith.
2017: Caleb Swanigan...just ahead of Kumza and not far ahead of Josh Hart.
2018: Anfernee Simons....Landry Shamet selected 2 picks later.

Damn, the whole 'at least Olshey is good at the Draft' is not exactly full of merit recently.

 

And the two games before that Jake was 4-10 and 1-4 while CJ was 12-20 and 10-14. What is your point? easy to cherry pick stats. I am not a CJ fan, never have been, but Layman is not better then Moe and ET, so not sure what all the love is. For every good game Jake has had this year, he has had two games where he disappears. A big part of the fan base for some reason forgets those games.

 

You'll notice I didn't suggest Jake get CJ's shots when he was 5-14. If Jake was 10-35 or something like that while CJ was shooting well with only a few shots, I'd suggest CJ get some of Jake's shots.

This isn't difficult.

 

Well Meyers was 4-5 Maybe some of Jakes shots should have gone to him.

 

Are you familiar with the notion of sticking with the hot hand? Nobody is saying Jake is a super-star....but he is capable of getting hot. The issue is why Stotts is so reluctant to to take advantage of what he does well. Stotts just doesn't adapt on the fly.