Event Things Trump Fans Should Die of Shame for, part one million

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  1. barfo

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    I agree, not all MAGA hat wearers are racist.

    Similarly, not all people who display the swastika are Nazis. There are non-Nazi uses of the swastika, even today.

    Wearing a symbol that has become associated with racism does create a risk that you'll be assumed to be a racist. But it's a personal choice whether that risk is important to you.

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    Is it not also a personal choice of the individual to ASSUME or not assume and investigate to validify said assumptions prior to coming to a judgment?

    There is a reason one of the oldest timeless cliches is...

    Assuming makes an ASS out of you.
     
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    And people that consider it such portray their opinion as fact. Which was my entire point. Thanks for bolstering my opinion.
     
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    I don't remember that civilians were made to wear a swastika - were they?
    Yes, Trump has not committed genocide. But I wasn't comparing Trump and Hitler. Use the peace symbol instead of the swastika for the discussion if it makes you feel better.
    It doesn't so much matter who is 'twisting it into a symbol'. I'd say it is Trump, not the hat wearers, but you can say it's the hat-haters, and that's fine.
    It's like the 2016 election. Trump is president now whether or not Russians changed any votes. The hat is now a symbol of racism whether or not it is 'fair' or who 'did it'.

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    Frequently people consider their opinions to be fact. It's quite common. If that was the point you wanted to make, I doubt anyone will disagree with you.

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    Sure. But if your goal is to get people to stop making assumptions, well, good luck to you!

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    My opinion is that it is far worse than it used to be. That we've fallen from a time when we had civil debate and the Maga hat controversy is a symbol of that.

    Buckley vs Vidal was groundbreaking and now would be considered tame.
     
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    2016 was a disastrous year for our country. I actually expect 2020 to be much, much worse. I think the the leadership of the political parties will be out for blood, losing wont be an option and things are going to get far more nasty than we’ve seen before.
     
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    I never said that. I said the hat, the slogan on it represent a racist ideology. Some people that wear them are racist. Some are just ignorant of what it truly means.
     
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    Trump just means the 90s. Clinton did maga already.
     
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    I once worked with a Vietnamese lady who invited me and my wife over for dinner. While we were there, I noticed her husband had a swastika tattooed to his arm. The next day at work, I told a lady who worked with the Vietnamese lady about the swastika and she said "Oh, that's not a swastika. They are Buddhists and that symbol has to do with their religion." Whew, you could hear the sigh of relief coming out my mouth.
     
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    Are you saying that Clinton owns the copyright on that acronym? Wow, is Trump gonna get a nasty surprise.
     
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    The leadership of any political parties being out for blood doesn't mean a single thing unless the voters are out for blood. Look to the voters not the leadership.
     
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    Didn't Buckley threaten to punch Vidal in the nose?
     
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    Reagan does. And Trump is acting like he came up with it. Just thought it up out of the blue.
     
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    He got pissed and started attacking him for being gay if I remember correctly. That's why I said it was tame.
     
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    I don't know that anyone trademarked it until Trump if he did so.

    I think Paris Hilton trademarked that's hot or whatever it is she said all the time. She sure didn't make that one up.
     
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    Reagan's family could probably make a case if they wanted. Doubt they will. I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump trademark it and take the credit for inventing it.
     
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