Exclusive Woj - Anthony Davis has Requested a Trade.

Why does it have to be 13 mil a year? One of the reasons Nurk has good value is that he is outplaying his contract. With Davis and Dame already on the roster, you can go all in. How about someone like Otto Porter? I bet WAS would jump at the opportunity to completely rid themselves of that contract in exchange for expirings. Or Gallinari? Or if you want to take a massive risk, Gordon Hayward or Andrew Wiggins? And if he finally gets frustrated, I bet Devin Booker would also be available.

Add any of those guys to a core of Dame-AD and you've got a ridiculously talented team.

The baseline for a team with just Dame on the roster is 41 wins. And again, this possibility is just nonsense. Why would AD leave to go to LA when Lebron is 36 yrs old and LA has blown all its space on a free agent this summer? That question still hasn't been answered.

 

1) I don't buy that, sorry. Dame cannot will this team to 40 wins by himself. Have you seen how badly we struggled just without a Center like Nurk? Now CJ is gone too, and several other players as well, INCLUDING Nurk. Because we traded him away.

We'd be LUCKY to win 30 games.

2) Why do you keep bringing up the Lakers? Nobody in their right mind believes they are a championship team. Except deluded Lakers fans.

He could go to the Warriors. If you thought that team was good now......

Then that's their problem. Hope they enjoy Lonzo Ball, or whatever clown shoe offer someone else throws at them.

Realistically, from what I've heard, we have the best potential offer for New Orleans. While I understand it's a stretch, I do hope Neil is breaking his nails to get this done. There's no reason why he can't, unless New Orleans says no.

 

Speaking of AD's decision, imagine how different things would be if New Orleans had not made that Cousins trade - and it looked like a complete no-brainer at the time.

They'd have kept Buddy Hield who would be a perfect fit with AD right now. Their pick ended up no. 10 back then but their record at the time of that trade was 23-34. They ended up 34-48 after going 11-14 for the rest of season. If they gave up on Cousins trade that season and just let it go they would have probably been like 31-51 and got a no. 6 or no. 7. That's a great chance at Isaac, Markkanen or Dennis Smith Jr (assuming they don't see Mitchell's potential).

That team would be so much better right now. It goes to show how an obvious trade can sometimes end up being the wrong one.

 

Why include ET?

We could make the deal better by doing CJ, Collins, Simons, and two or three 1sts for Davis and Hill.

 

BrianFreeman_NBA‏@BrianFreeman24 49m49 minutes ago
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Just so we all understand, this was a joke and Woj never actually said this. I assumed that was understood but it turns out it needs to be clarified

 

Yes after reading it more closely I realized that. I deleted my stupid post. I only read as far as CJ.

 

That's how shitty Olshey is.

Obvious sarcasm sometimes isn't so obvious with this management.

 

If a hypothetical trade for AD and Solomon Hill for CJ and Nurk happened you call the Magic and go hard after Vucevic. He's averaging 20.7 ppg, 12 rpg, and 3.8 apg. His contract ends after this season so the Magic might worry about him leaving for nothing.

If that fails there are a bunch of centers potentially available like Andre Drummond, Marc Gasol, and Kevin Love. Since we wouldn't have given up Collins, Simons, Trent, or any picks we'd still have the ammo to give those teams young players and picks.

You can also make trades that bring in vets on similar deals to what your bad contracts are. Something like ET for Tristan Thompson and/or Leonard for Courtney Lee. NY is trying to scrape every penny out of free agency this summer and that saves them a little bit.

I do love Nurk a lot but a move like this would completely change Lillard and his ability to win a ring here.

 

I think it speaks more of the gullibility of some posters rather than a person ( Olshey) that had zero involvement.

 

why is this still a thread?

 

well that's wrong. A better offer would be the same minus Turner because adding negative value like Turner in a trade when you're trying to maximize outgoing value is dumb. Besides that, you're sending out over 47M in salary when AD is at 25.4M. There would have to be a lot added to the deal on the Pels side to even meet CBA rules. Needlessly complicated

If you want to go that route and avoid the pain of losing Nurkic, then make it something like

CJ + Aminu + Zach + Simons + two 1sts (38.2M) for AD + E'Twaun Moore + Frazier/Clark (36M)

that way, Portland is sending out all positive assets with one being an expiring contract, plus 2 young prospects on rookie deals and two first round picks. The pelicans might actually be intrigued by an offer like that instead of insulted by Olshey offering Turner

for Portland, they lose their 2 PF's, but with Nurk around, AD will be playing a lot of PF and the Blazers can still run Harkless, Layman, and Swanigan at PF, with the first 2 maybe being a good fit with twin towers big men
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I think the fly in all this AD-to-Portland ointment might be CJ. Are we even sure the Pels would be interested in him as the centerpiece of an AD trade? The Pels beat the Blazers in the playoffs by selling out to stop Dame and leaving CJ single covered with even his defender hedging toward Dame. They've done essentially the same thing in the two games this season. CJ had a good series against the Pels, but it didn't matter. It kind of looks like New Orleans has decided that CJ can't have a big impact on games, otherwise they'd defend him different

I'm not sure a player they view that way would be seen by them as a coveted return in an AD trade, especially considering CJ's big contract

would that really be so bad?

I'm looking at Portland now and thinking they are close to the ceiling for this roster. Their tax situation this summer and ownership limbo makes it possible they are going to lose a couple of players like Aminu and Curry. Even Layman might be hard to hold onto. Where is the upside of this roster? Yeah, Nurkic should get better, or at least more consistent. Zach and Layman might improve, but they might not. It looks like a treadmill...sure, it might be a higher level treadmill but it's still plodding along on pretty much the same trajectory it's had for 3 years

swinging for the fences and ultimately missing when AD leaves, isn't really a worse situation in my view.

 

It’s actually perfect. It has all the “Trade Tirade” Dudes all in one thread and they are off the game thread. At least for now. All the Olshey hate and trade scenarios all mixed into a Davis thread.
They could merg this with the Melo thread though. But the site might shut down?

 

I get what you're saying, but I have the opposite view. Trading Nurk and not re-signing Davis would be disastrous. After trading CJ+Nurk we'd be left with just Dame, and that might be the only thing that would push him to end his loyalty to the team. Perhaps it's naive of me, but I take Dame at his word. I never felt that way about Roy (and certainly not about LA). We've already made a few blunders that I'm sure has Dame shaking his head. Trading our two most valuable players and having nothing to show for it could spell the end for Dame.

Also, Nurk is pretty damned good and on a great contract. I'm very wary of trading good players on great contracts - they're quite rare.

Also also, I'm not convinced that Davis is THAT much better than Nurk. Factor in injuries and the gap narrows. Factor in the more-than-double price tag and the price narrows further. And then consider the impact PFs/Cs have on winning, and I don't think the price is worth it - that money is better spent on a wing.

 

Really? Nurk is good, but these three metrics indicate that Davis is almost 2x more impactful.

 

Not taking sides here but I have two things to add/question:

1) Until the last year and a half Nurk has also had injury problems. Maybe a different training staff could help AD.

2) How do you look at those stats and think that AD isn't a lot better than Nurk?

 

Yeah, I see that. Doesn't mean they're entirely accurate. I suspect some of those advanced offensive metrics would come down playing second fiddle. It's the defense I'm most interested in, and those seem pretty equal. Shooting, rebounding, assist, steal, and block stats seem pretty equal. So three multi-variable metrics say Davis is double-good, but 10+ other metrics have them pretty much equal.

Like I said, I'm not convinced Davis is THAT much better. Which is to say he IS better, but not as much as he should be in the hypothetical where we lose Nurk for a 1.5 season rental.

 

At this point realism is setting in and I just hope he’s dealt to the Knicks. Hopefully this triggers the following events...

KD leaves GS to join AD in NY

Kemba Walker is the best FA LA lands

Somehow Blake ends up in PDX

I’d say that makes us the 1 seed next year

 

Every single one of your stats indicates that AD is better than Nurk, and not by a marginal amount. They also project him to be an all time great.

 

There hasn't been in a game in days, just wait the game thread will be popping as we beat down the jazz tonight!