To me whining and crying aren't the same thing. They can happen together and of course if someone is being all whiny that is one thing. Gobert wasn't throwing a tantrum or anything childish. He was being asked questioned and got a little emotional. That's not even close to a kid not getting his way and throwing a fit. If your son had a pet that died would you coach that shit out of him to man up and not cry? I know it's not the same thing but you seem to be taking a firm stance against crying. Edit: I also think it's bullshit when someone says "you're too big to cry". Like what the fuck does that even mean? If you're a certain height you're not allowed to be sad?
I see @PtldPlatypus liked your post. Easy for him. He’s tall, so he wouldn’t cry. Ergo, easy for him to like your post but he cannot relate.
I think they’re just talking hydraulics. Once you get to be a certain height, gravity prevents the tear production necessary for crying. Unless you’re willing to stand on your head, of course.
Firm stance.... Jesus.... Guys... Couple things: I never talked about a tantrum. Ever. Then you double down on the tantrum talk and say "coach him not to cry about his dead pet"?? WTF are you talking about?? You know there's a point in a child's development when he stops crying (literally their only form of communication) and can verbalize "Dad I'm hungry"? My hard and fast rule is: now that you can verbalize what you want with your big boy words, the crying for it must end. I don't want to And will not respond to a whiny "I'm hungry" again. It's over now. Your capable of simply asking for and informing me of what thou need and want now. And you must also know that Pop can't whine to get things like a job or a car from whining. I need to work hard... Also, if my son was whining because he didn't make an all star team, I'd tell him to suck it up and use it as motivation. Let's please stop with the narrative that I think men shouldn't cry or that it's weak to. Back to Rudy: He's a fucking whiner. Y'all really need to unpack a lot of the bullshit he said in that interview: "You know the way the league is headed." "Disrespect to the game" "The league doesn't value defense" Statements like this COUPLED with his mama catching his grown ass crying over a kid's game because he "didn't make all stars" ... Makes me say: Shut your whiny ass up! Also, for @yuyuza1 to equate "Whiny Rudy" with Dame's fuck you letter and subsequent fuck you tour, is utter bullshit.
Of course part of parenting is teaching your kids emotional maturity. Not all reasons to cry are equal though. Crying cause you worked your butt off with the goal of an all star game and fell short is different then crying to “get your way”. I absolutely agree that some of the things he said were “outlandish” as you put it, and it seems like a rather short sighted goal to have as an NBA player. Who are we to tell him what his goals should be though? If his goal was to make an all star game this year and he felt like he put everything he had into it and didnt get in, seems likely he would have an emotional reaction to it. Now hopefully (at least if you’re a Jazz fan) he does man up and go make players / coaches pay for not putting him in. In terms of if it was playful ribbing or not, I dont know what his relationships with those guys are like it could be. I get you are not saying its bad to cry in general, but I still think its really hard to tell another man what they should have emotional investment in. The crying was mainly what guys were ribbing him for, not his comments too.
Not sure why he liked it. It wasn't talking about any stance I've taken. it was an argument against one I wasn't making.
It is my opinion that Rudy's crying was all about being a fucking whiner. Suck it up. Save your tears for something that actually matters. Thousands of kids are still being separated from their parents at the border and our administration has no desire to reunite them with their families. Suck it the fuck up Rudy. You not making all stars isn't the end of the world, it isn't a conspiracy of the league to keep defensive minded big men out... Nor is it a "disrespect to the game"... It literally makes me say STFU and quit whining.
You're giving him WAY too much credit. You really think that's why he's crying? Because he "fell short"? No, he feels disrespected. He feels cheated. His words show it has nothing to do with falling short of a goal but everything to do feeling slighted due to a conspiracy to keep defense out of the all star game. Really??? Y'all have sympathy only because a donkey said something negative..
That's a weird way to frame that. When was this done? I never said what his emotions should be invested in. I'm a coach. It's the same thing I say when my kids get mad or sad: What are you gonna do now? For the most part we get to choose how to feel, but not always. Ok, you feel the way you do... WHAT NOW? Are you gonna cry and whine about it or are you gonna get up and DO something? I said his ACTIONS (always separate from your emotions) are whiny. What he said was weak. And his ACTIONS after having his emotions are weak too.
Well I suppose were all entitled to an opinion. The whole kids being seperated from their parents at the border thing, Im not sure I get the relevance. I doubt even Rudy would say what happened to him is worse than that. Its not like an emotional olympics where only the ultra terrible is worth crying for. - Maybe I took your point incorrectly? I dont believe him having an emotional reaction after the selections, impedes him from “sucking it up” and going back at it. Like I said I agree that his reasons for crying seem kind of lame from my perspective but hey he wouldnt be the 1st professional athlete to cry because they put everything they had into something and fell short. For me, Ive been working on developing a product for almost 2 years now, many 70-80 hour weeks, business trips all over the place, time away from my family, if it doesnt end up going anywhere I wouldnt cry because well thats not how I work emotionally, but I bet the other engineer Ive worked with would. I would understand it. I believe he would be back on his feet ready to take on another challenge pretty quick though. I’ll finish here, You might be right and his reaction was purely just a “I didnt get my way so now Im going to pout about it”, I dont know, but when I see another guy cry, or just be emotional my first thought it usually try to understand why, its empathy I guess.
Didnt you say, he should save his tears for whats important? - isnt that saying this shouldnt be important go find something that is? I agree that he needs to go do something, Im definitely not argueing with you there. He needs to spend the next couple months winning games and blocking shots.
I'm one of the most empathetic people you'll ever meet. I put myself in the other guys shoes to the nth degree. If we were on the phone and you said "I'm in the lobby" I'd picture myself as you in the lobby. I listened to every word of that interview and put myself in Rudy's shoes. My conclusion after all the bullshit he spouted, was dude STFU...
I’m not for Gobert crying about it. Even though it’d likely hurt Portland, I hope he channels that level of disappointment into something productive on the court. That being said, I have respect for the fact that he cares that much. But don’t come looking for handouts. Go out and prove to people that your “snub” meant you were wronged, if you can say being left out of the the ASG is being “wronged”.
NOW you have it. This is NOT important enough for him to be crying over. What's important is his team making the playoffs.
