And its absolutely ok for you to have that opinion. Im not saying anything bad about you for having it. I come to similar opinions about people sometimes but I dont go on twitter and give them crap about it. Totally understand where you’re coming from, and I mean no disrespect, I guess I just see it a little differently, though I agree with you in part.
Telling me to lighten up when you're replying like that? Ironic. This also may be a tactic. I probably would've thrown hands in person.
OH SHIT! Did you guys see Gobert's response to someone asking if he saw Draymond's tweet? He said "As long as he doesn't post anything on Snapchat, we're good." This is in reference to Draymond posting a dick pic on Snapchat.
I'm a crier. I cry at movies, TV shows, commercials. I cry during intense conversations with my wife, my kids. I've even cried at work (that was almost 20 years ago, but still it happened). Never been afraid to cry. Big fan of crying. It's cathartic. I liked the post because I agreed with the base premise that whining and crying aren't the same, not to signify agreement with one side or another in an argument.
I'll admit that I haven't watched Gobert's video, so I'm speaking from a place of ignorance here. But my takeaways from what I've read is that he essentially feels that by the coaches not voting him an all star, they are essentially rejecting his identity as a basketball player. I can see how that could hurt to a degree that it leads a man to cry. I'll share something personal that you all might not see as relating, but I see a connection. After nearly 18 years at our church, we're looking for a new one. Why? Because there has been a movement over the past 5+ years to change the way nearly everything is being done, ostensibly to make it more attractive/palatable to visitors. Not that anything being done is wrong, it's just different. Personally, I have no problem with change. My wife, however, has been upset by many of them. She has voiced her opposition several times, and that is invariably pushed to the side. As a result, she feels rejected by the church. Now, I don't agree with her, I don't think she should be taking these things personally, I don't think that these changes should be the problem for her that they are...but the fact is that that is how she feels, and I'm sure as hell not going to tell her that she shouldn't feel how she feels. I think Gobert's reaction to the coaches' vote is similar to my wife's reaction to our church's changes: "I've done what I do the best way I know how, and you're telling me it's not good enough, or it's not the way things are done anymore. You're telling me that what I value an antiquated version of what we're trying to do." Now, I understand perfectly well what @dviss1 is saying about responding to crying in disappointment from parenting or coaching perspective. I absolutely do the same with my kids. One of my favorite "dad-isms" (that my kids can parrot back to me because I've said it so many times) is, "You can't always control what happens to you, but you can always control how you respond to it. Focus on your choices, not your circumstances." Just like dviss said--"What are you going to do now?" However, none of the people who have criticized Gobert are his parent. None of them are his coach. None of them are in any position to influence, inspire, motivate, or otherwise counsel him. So I personally think it's inappropriate for them to take that role in response to his crying. Yes, I agree that he should focus on what he can/should do differently. But it is not their (or our) place to tell him to STFU or to stop whining. As far as I'm concerned, the proper response (all we can control) from someone who is not an authority figure or a trusted friend to somebody "whining" over disappointment is either kindness or silence. If he were speaking (whining) to me, then he would probably get an "OK, what now?" response. But he's not, so he won't. [/sermon]
Saying "that's a load of crap" with the inflection I said it in would've probably made you laugh. I'm 1000% sure you wouldn't have "thrown hands" and really to need to chill the fuck out now... I don't know WTF is up with you right now...
That's the point everyone cries. And frankly, I'm upset with his whining not really his crying. To the notion that no one is on a position to be telling him to quit whining, I disagree. The only reason we're having this conversation is because he took his whiny bullshit public... Once you do that it's open to the court of public opinion. He involved everyone and because of that everyone who heard it can have a say. Shit... One of the reporters should've asked him what he was gonna do now.
Playing in the NBA is an elite job that pays younger people millions based on elite talent and a fan/TV driven market. His feelings are neither right or wrong, however because of the arena of such public viewership any players feelings will be scrutinized by fans/reporters etc. It does come with the territory and Im sure all players are counseled on how to handle themselves in front of the camera. Because his thoughts with regards to his mother triggered the emotion, I give him a pass and actually appreciate his sensitivity regarding her. Id much rather witness that than an athlete being arrogant or an ego ass.
Did you watch the video? Because he said his mother caught him crying. Hee wasn't crying because of his mother. This narrative needs to die. He was crying and his mother FOUND him crying. When he cried set the end it had nothing to do with his mother... Why are people saying this??? Can we get this whiny shit outta the Dame thread?? This has quite literally derailed this thread
Agreed. Unfortunately, athletes are not the only ones prone to being an arrogant ass. Plenty of fans proudly display how big of an ass they are day after day.
I have more respect for Gobert and his show of emotions than I do for Lonzo Ball (and his father). I'll tell ya that much!
Just focusing in here gotta throw this in. Dame's going to have the Best Blazer career ever, definitely glad he's playing for the Blazers. He's a special dude.
