Just based on this I’d probably rank them 1. Kanter 2. Gortat 3. Lopez 4. Monroe (for the record I wouldn’t pursue Monroe at all) Olshey did pursue Kanter before. It was probably done mostly to fuck with OKC, but I don’t think he would’ve risked it had he not also believed Kanter was a fit.
I agree with no Z-Bo. It's crazy talk. But if you think Olshey was playing some brain game by signing Kanter to that offer, you're a Kool-aid kid. That notion had been inferred later, but the reality is clear that Kanter was just another straw Olshey was grasping at that he couldn't quite get a hold of, see: Greg Monroe, Roy Hibbard, Chandler Parsons=Olshey in desperation mode. Evan Turner was a byproduct of that. Giving FOUR year deals out, also a byproduct. Dude is most definitely not outthinking anyone.
Kanter can flat out score. Just for that - he would be the #1 target imho - just give the 2nd unit another scorer with a bit of a different flavor.
And he’s a big time offensive rebounder. I just wonder what kind of offers he’s going to get. He might be able to find a bigger role elsewhere.
I don't agree with you on that at all. Kanter was on record saying he wanted to play in OKC. If the Blazers had got him they would not have lost either. They needed a player like him at the time. You guys are poor at remembering what was said. People here wanted Kanter. They also said Turner was a good sign until he didn't work. Not every player trade and signing works out. Sometimes players don't fit well. Sometimes they play really well to get a contract and then lay down until their next contract year. A GM can only keep trying to find a good fit and a player that works hard. The rest is a crap game. Rolls of the dice. I've seen 7 come up 5 times in a row. I have seen a shooter not crap out for over 30 mins. I made money of the hot shooter and i lost on 5 7's in a row. Nobody at the table thought another 7 was coming up. But it did. Was not the shooters fault. Just happens that way.
You must be a pro-Olshey, revisionist-history propagandist. Correct. That is no bull and you are no propagandist.
I remember. But Kanter sucked for that money. I punched my steering wheel when I heard the news. The only argument to be made is that Kanter used us for a bigger contract. Olshey/Blazers gained nothing from that exchange. It certainly didn't hogtie OKC in any way. Besides, if that were true, that Olshey was out there trying to fucked up other people's books, then fuck him for not paying attention to his own books.
He'd be our second best big in the regular season. But teams would P&R him to death in his 15 mpg in the playoffs. You saw what SA did to Leonard last night. That's about what we can expect in the playoffs. This wouldn't happen with Rolo. He's like Nurk only slightly worse in pretty much every aspect of the game. Having a Nurk and Nurk 2.0 on the court for 48 mpg in the playoffs is incredible.
Actually I challenge you @jlprk to find anything from 2015 that suggested OKC WOULD NOT match. Their Gm was on record saying he would match any offer. You wanna play? Let’s play. https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest...-gm-says-he-plans-match-max-offer-enes-kanter
So Kanter used the Blazers but the Blazers didn't force a team in the same division to sign their player. I see.
GMs often try to prevent offers by claiming they will match anything. Olshey was sincerely trying to get any player he made an offer for. Obviously. Risking tens of millions of dollars is no frivolity.
What are you saying? It was a max offer. If Presti was bluffing why did he match? Also try not to pivot and actually find me something that suggested OKC wouldn’t match. Everyone knew they would. I didn’t even give much thought to Kanter in a Blazer uniform and I doubt anyone else did either. So unless proven otherwise, the only revisionist propagandist here is you.
Huh? You're the one claiming that Olshey was bluffing. Kjironman then used gambling analogies, as in poker bluffing. So you reversed it to say that I claim that Presti was bluffing. You are one good propagandist. Our Master Bluffer can't bluff his way out of a paper bag. You are much better than him at it. You should be GM.
Lopez also formed a good pick and roll partnership with Lillard. And he fit Portlands culture and seemingly enjoyed his time as a Blazer. I think I’d still go with Kanter but I think he’ll find a bigger role elsewhere so it doesn’t even matter. I just hope the Warriors don’t pursue Lopez. I’d settle for Gortat though, he’s fine too.
When did I say Olshey was bluffing? I said he wouldn’t have gone after him had he not thought he was a fit. Fucking with OKC was also part of it though. I don’t know why that’s so hard to accept?
To mess with their payroll? Again, Olshey mismanages his own payroll. I think more likely, Olshey liked Kanter and wanted him on the roster. Occam's razor.
Why can’t it be both? He liked Kanter enough to pursue him, but wouldn’t have minded OKC getting saddled with his contract either.
In Olshey's defense, this was before the summer he messed up the payroll. Other than that summer he's actually been really good at managing the payroll.
"Fucking with OKC" = bluffing. When did I say that Presti was bluffing? You first mentioned the word "bluffing," not me.
