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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Wizard Mentor, Feb 7, 2019.

  1. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

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    I wouldnt mind bringing in Gortat, not to play just to teach guys likes Zach.
     
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  2. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Can always buy into the second round
     
  3. riverman

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    I think they might use the open spot for 10 day contracts to kick tires on players and I believe they have to be signed before sometime in March to be playoff eligible....more likely we pick up a big rental
     
  4. wizenheimer

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    maybe my math is off, but as I understand it, doing that deal would have added Monroe's contract to the roster; it's a vet minimum I believe. About a 1/3rd of the season is left so 500K of salary and around 3M in additional tax. In other words, Portland would have been paying 3.5M for a future 2nd round pick...that seems pretty excessive
     
  5. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Think of it this way. Trading a 2nd for an upgrade big who can help us down the stretch and in the playoffs
     
  6. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Not as easy as you think. People say that the 2 #2s Olshey traded for Hood are easily re-bought...it's far from automatic that Olshey can convince a seller at the exact draft spot he wants.

    Also, there goes the cash he could have used to grease trades. But then, Olshey lacks the talent to make real (good player for good player) trades, so I guess that doesn't matter.
     
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    Philly got a pick that they traded away sometime ago back at the deadline...sometimes you can reacquire the damned things I guess
     
  8. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Olshey got Layman by buying into the 2nd rnd. Trent Jr last draft. It's kind of his go to
     
  9. hoopsjock

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    $3.5 million is how much GS paid for the rights to Jordan Bell in the 2017 draft. Last year both the Blazers and Pistons gave up two future 2nds for just one 2nd.

    $3.5 million seems about right.
     
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    Nope, in both of those trades we gave up 2nd rounders too.
     
  11. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    We did? Shit
     
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    The other factor is now there are Two-way contracts teams have extra roster spots to develop 2nd rounders.
     
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    I can see his Olshey's logic in this. People always overvalue picks of any kind. It's an easy way to get something of immediate value. People always trade something right in front of their face for a shot at the "mystery box."
     
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    He also paid a #2 in the Layman transaction, not just cash alone. He didn't replace the 2 #2s he paid for Crabbe, the one for Thomas Robinson, the one for Robin Lopez, the one for Anderson Varejao, the two for Gary Trent, and the two for Hood.

    I don't want to argue each of those trades. I want to argue that it's not an easy yawner to buy 2nd-round picks...at exactly the spot where the player he wants is available.
     
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    yeah, but that was in a current draft for a specific player they wanted, with ownership definite and in place. And many around the league seemed surprised at the price Warriors paid, IIRC

    paying 3.5M for Monroe just to waive and get a 2nd seems like pretty expensive speculation. Now, maybe not so expensive if JA is willing to sign off on adding a player clearing waivers and the tax it would cost, but we don't know yet if she's willing to do that
     
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    Even if he had kept all those picks, the likelihood that those picks were exactly in the right spot is minimal too.

    I'm not seeing a difference...
     
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    Working thru the numbers on Shamsports, our tax bill if we sign a pro-rated minimum contract would jump from 12.9 mil to 13.9 mil.

    Not too bad.
     
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    Now that the popular opinion seems to have shifted firmly to the "Olshey Sucks" end of the GM meter, I'm wondering what you're going to do. Being conventional and sticking with the popular opinion seems so anti-jlprk.
     
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    No way Gortat comes here. Blazers don't have enough time for him.
     
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    They absolutely do.
     

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