Game Thread GAME# 64: BLAZERS @ GRIZZLIES - MARCH 5, 2018 - TUESDAY, 5:00 PM, NBCSNW

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Darkwebs, Mar 3, 2019.

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Whom do you like better (as a broadcaster)?

Poll closed Mar 10, 2019.
  1. Kevin Calabro

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  2. Lamar Hurd

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  1. bobf

    bobf Well-Known Member

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    Exactly what I’ve been thinking about Kanter but was too lazy to put it all into words.
     
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    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    I thought i would address this part of the comment because i actually don't think Kanter is as bad as some are making him out to be on defense. But he does stink it up at times.
    The other side to the rebounding part is that players make shots at 40-50% rate. Less when it is a three. Rebounding on defense is in fact playing defense. So having a guy ready to corral a rebound on a miss instead of letting the team have another chance at 40-50% of making a shot does help the team. Kanter does present a body they need to go around or through or over. So maybe it isn't quite as bad as suggested? It is very demoralizing to give up offensive rebounds. Kanter reduces that issue at an astounding rate.
     
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    brooklynballer Well-Known Member

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    Because they win IN SPITE of him, not because of him. Please, in your infinite wisdom, provide me with one example of a game where Stotts’ quick thinking, strategic adjustments, or game plan DIRECTLY resulted in a win for the team.
     
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  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Unfortunately, one of the ways Kanter reduces offensive rebounds is by making it more likely for the opposition's first shot to go in.
     
  5. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I think the rotation needs to be shortened. But I'm sure Stotts must feel hemmed in by Olshey's moves. I think Collins will be more valuable than Kanter in the playoffs and Collins should be playing every day. Turner should be out of the rotation. But Turner was Olshey's big free agent signing and Kanter his big buyout acquisition; I don't think Stotts is tough enough to do what's necessary. Curry also probably needs to be out. I love how hard the kid plays but he is just not getting it done.
     
  6. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    and that is total bullshit. Just the game prior to last night, he made the adjustment of going at the Hornets with Hood and they kept running plays for him and instead of pulling him when he normally does he left him in the whole 4th quarter that helped lead us to the win. Quit being such a hater rook.
     
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  7. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Thank you guys for allowing me to take a backseat.
     
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    Why not just give examples...? Its ok to have conversations.

    My example would be the Charlotte game, he left Hood in, instead of going with his normal rotation. That was a good call.

    Not that Im in love with Stotts as a coach, cause Im not. There examples of good coachhing from him though.
     
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  9. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Tunchi, shut up.
     
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    My apologies Cup, I didn't see the full reply.
     
  11. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I hate when people say (And im not saying this is what your doing) stuff like "Props to Stotts for leaving Hood in, hes a great coach", when Hood scored 14 points in the previous 5 minutes and the alternative is subbing him out for Harkless.

    At that rate, we might as well give him props for tying his tie.
     
  12. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    He edited it, not your fault.
     
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  13. TorturedBlazerFan

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    Sure, but most of us have also complained about Stotts not sticking with the hot hand when he should. So if we're going to complain about one we should at least acknowledge when he does stick with the player who's hot. I think you and I feel mostly the same about Stotts overall though.
     
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    Example A: This guy below cites this reason than gets aggressive over it:
    Cant believe were giving a head coach props for sparingly using common sense instead of a rock solid rotation. Cant believe were giving props to a coach leaving in a guy that was on absolute fire and is probably as good as the starter at his position. I cant believe this is what its come down to.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Why?

    If Stotts left his tie untied people would rightfully complain about how silly it looks. Why do we need to give him props if he ties it?

    I dont understand why sporadic failure to use common sense means we have to acknowledge and give him props when he does use common sense.
     
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    Yes, we all know you think you are the expert when it comes to coaching so maybe you should do some good with it and coach a youth team. The poster wanted one example and i pulled that one rather easily. There are plenty more, but not worth the time as the Stotts detractors like you get all worked up over it.
     
  17. TorturedBlazerFan

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    But theres more to it then just leaving a guy in when he’s hot. He left ML in a game earlier this season when he was playing well and they lost, because ML ran out of gas at the end of that game. Bench guys who arent used to big minutes have to be monitored too. Weve seen Layman at times get gassed when he was hot too.
    He could easily have taken hood out and said he looked tired, which is part of coaching to recognize when a guy is at the end of his spurt. Had he done that we’d all be upset he took Hood out, especially if they had lost.

    Saying its common sense, is simplifying it more than it should be to prove a point.
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    I'm not too upset. After all, OKC lost at Minny and Golden State got blown out at home by the Celtics. Every team lays an egg once in a while. I would argue that our loss wasn't as bad as the two I've just mentioned.
     
  19. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Get outta your feelings.
     
  20. BonesJones

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    If Rodney Hood ran out of gas itd be easy to tell through his play. If he started struggling defensively and missed a couple shots, then I dont think anyone would have much of a problem with him being taken out.

    You're overexplaining it. Player B is red hot and Player A isnt a top notch replacement? Then ride Player B until the end, or until they're no longer hot. It's common sense.
     

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