Lillard's and Aldridge's relationship. (He will come back Portland one day)

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  1. CupWizier

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    My eyes work pretty good for evaluation. Stats are nice but seeing can be even more important. Pro leagues use to use this method a lot and were pretty good drafting . That and gut instincts have shown to be successful.
     
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    This has got to be one of the strangest coincidences of all time but I was at the OSAA Dance Championships today and I read this post right after watching the Grant "Specifics" perform.
     
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    I think I might have hooked up with your wife at Grant, I did get around.
     
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    Hmm. I would say you got more of a pear shape. :devilwink:
     
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    lol, you weren't even conceived yet youngin'.
     
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    No... There are not a ton of players in the NBA that can AVERAGE 20 ppg. You are wrong on that.
     
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    This. I'll take Aldridge all day over garbage Al farouq ABricku
     
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    Only certain people would but it is pretty good.
     
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    Do you think so? I didn't really think that? I honestly do not think he will command as much as his last contract? But maybe?
     
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    I disagree on that. I think alot of players can, but arent put into position to do so because of other players around them already doign so, so their roles are more limited.

    Randle from NO is a perfect example.

    Are there many that do? No.

    Are there many that can if put into the same role as those that do? I think so.

    CJ is another example. CJ didnt average anything until Wes left and CJ got the minutes and the role. IF Wes would have resigned and relegated CJ to the bench, he might still not be a 20ppg player.
     
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    Randle is a perfect example of a player that can indeed GET 20 ppg. But absolutely cannot AVERAGE 20 ppg.
    If Randle is the primary focus of a team and they are trying to get 20 ppg out of him he would be shut down.
     
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    Well that goes with most players though. What did Dame average against NO when he was the primary focus? That's why tits a team game. :).

    Of course there are stipulations, and situations dictate the moment. But like I said, put into the right position, I think many players can average 20PPG.
     
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    Well now you are looking at a different narrative. Dame against NO is a playoff series. I was thinking in terms of regular season and when Dame was the primary and is the primary like now he does indeed average 20 ppg. So really this makes my point even more if you want to rely on Randle as a 20 ppg scorer in a playoff series you might need about 2 or even three other options. And yes any team would with any player. I agree. Any team in a playoff series needs a 2nd and 3rd option.
     
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    I can see him getting a contract for a couple years for around 8-10 mil per year still
     
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    This is exactly my point. Many players can average 20ppg, given the right situation. Most don't because they don't have the options around them to keep the defense honest. That isn't the players fault, that's a rosters fault and put on the right roster, most players CAN average 20ppg in my opinion.
     
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    I guess our idea of what it would take to be a player that averages 20 ppg is a bit different. But i can understand your point there. On a bad team as the number one option a player can average 20 ppg. This conversation is about Aldridge though. He has always been on a 50 win team. Blazers or Spurs. The guy is better than a good player on a bad team. He even averages over 20 ppg in the playoffs. So he does it on teams that are playoff teams.
     
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    Scoring 20 is one thing. Averaging 20 is a whole different ball game. I see only 3 players that could possible average 20 for a season on the Blazers and the two obvious are Lillard and McCollum, and the third might be Nurkic, but that's not even a given at this stage. To say that most players can average 20ppg just doesn't seem very realistic.
     
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    To use this analogy is perfect.

    My opinion is that if you put Hood into CJ's spot, I think he could average 20PPG.

    You are correct that only a couple players per team can do it, because they are the number 1-3 options. But if you take other role players and put them in the 1-3 option, I think they could then average 20PPG, like my Hood/CJ example above.

    If Kuzma was the number one option on the Lakers, I think he would be 20PPG, given the right supporting cast.

    Back to Randle and NO. You guys don't think he could average 20PPG as their number 1 option? I do.
     

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