Game Thread GAME# 71: MAVERICKS @ BLAZERS - MARCH 20, 2019 - WEDNESDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

What would you rather give up as a Blazer fan though; CJ McCollum and salary filler (think Meyers) or Collins, one of Trent and Simons, and two firsts? I’d rather just give them CJ. I also don’t know how a Dame, CJ, Blake trio would work. CJ would have to sacrifice what he likes to do the most.

 

Offtopic question, in the english lesson i had to write an essay, and i wrote the same sentence as you: thats news to me, and my english teacher said that was wrong Grammatical, wtf is wrong with that sentence if even you as a native speaker write that

 

Not giving up CJ allows us to trade him somewhere else though. I know you want CJ off the team but we could likely use him to balance the roster around Dame, Nurk, and Blake.

 

Often in texts and posts we shorten statements/words or take out words that we know are not necessary. For example the first question would have to be something like "Would you consider Barton to be a shooting guard who is a three point shooter and plays defense well?

 

I actually don’t want him off the team unless I know we’re getting an upgrade. For example, I wouldn’t do that CJ/Aaron Gordon trade that’s been thrown around before.

 

Je ne le savais pas. C'est nouveau pour moi.

 

So many assumptions but i can play along also. Okay he can't come here. Like i said. This is an entertainment business and we ain't the ring leader.

 

But you just said they are either going to continue to try to "Win Now" or they will "Blow it up". Now you are saying you "Know for a fact that Detroit's problem is that their owner wants to win now...."
You're all over the place Hoops. I totally understand that you are very knowledgeable but you just don't know what is happening and when. Pure speculation on your part. Usually very complete and interesting to read but still speculation. You just don't know because you are a fan. Plain and simple.

 

Also seems strange that a game thread turned into a trade thread, lol.

 

KJ, you don't know if I have some sort of connection to the Detroit front office or not so you can dismiss me as just a Blazer fan that knows nothing about other teams but please don't mischaracterize what I said. I am not all over the place, your interpretation of what I'm saying is the issue.

Here is what is going on in Detroit:

The owner wants to win. He doesn't want to rebuild, hence them trading for Griffin in the first place. At the same time he has people in his ear letting him know this version of the Pistons is just too far away from competing even with Drummond and Griffin. He entertained starting the rebuild at the trade deadline but ultimately decided against it. IF he doesn't soften that stance they aren't going to trade Griffin, it's pretty much that simple.

Logically it makes sense to rebuild. The team is barely in the playoffs in the East with Griffin and Drummond having huge years. I think that is pretty clear to everyone but the owner. So yes there are too possible outcomes, he could continue demanding this team competes in which case they will be stuck around the same spot they currently reside in at best or he could see the light and rebuild.

 

What in that post is an assumption?

You don't think the Bucks will make Brogdon a restricted free agent for the really small qualifying offer?

Or do you think the Blazers can somehow magically erase guaranteed contracts this summer to be players in free agents?

 

Do you have connections to the Pistons front office and do they share trade information with you?

 

I'm certainly not going to share the extent of my connections on a public forum but I'm not privy to specific trade scenarios or every transaction they are considering. Otherwise I'd know if Blake Griffin was the player with a significant contract Olshey said he almost acquired at the trade deadline.

I do hate when someone says or implies that someone's posts are bullshit because they're just a fan or haven't played the game or haven't been a coach/GM. It's possible to be well informed and know what you talking about but not have the opportunity to be a part of a pro sports team.

 

We all have opinions. I think the point kj was making that it's pure speculation which is fine. You never did answer my question though as it had nothing to do with revealing anything. You told kj that he didn't know if you had connections with the Pistons management so I simply asked if you did.

 

It’s usually a last resort when they’ve got nothing else.

 

Okay. I guess i'll just assume you have a connection to the Detroit Pistons and we will leave it at that. Honestly i'm not really sure how this got on Blake Griffin because i personally don't think he would fit here anyway. But I AM just a fan so what do i know? Originally this was about CJ and finding a player that might work in his stead. @BonesJones brought up Brogdon and i really like that idea but what i posted was i think he is gonna get paid. I think you agreed with that? But again I AM just a fan so what do i know? This is exactly why i don't even post here in the off season. The conversation never stays on topic and the results of the conversation never yield anything "Entertaining". From now on i will assume you have ties to the Detroit Pistons and you are completely in tune with that organization. So that would mean you probably are not allowed to be privy to what is going on with the Blazers as that would be like corporate espionage or something. Pretty sure Olshey doesn't want the Pistons knowing all his info. Pretty safe to assume Woj isn't in your back pocket either right?
Seriously though just keep on doing what you do. It's fun to read sometimes.

Kjironman is a fan of @hoopsjock !!!

 

Honestly i wasn't even disagreeing. I was just saying "We are fans so it's all speculation". Which in my case it most certainly is just speculation.

 

Sure it's possible. But how many times have you actually called a trade or a move a team makes before it's common knowledge? When you make 20 or 30 different possibilities and say "That's one of the scenarios i was talking about" after Woj breaks the story then it kind of loses it's luster. Look everyone was sure Davis was going to LA. Didn't happen YET! Will it happen? Sure maybe. Could it be somewhere else? Sure. But to say i called that if he signs with Boston would be a little weak at this point. Unless you go on record saying that is what will happen and there ain't no other option. Seriously. Would Detroit be in the mix for Davis? Could they be?

 

You replied twice to posts Scalma and I had discussing Blake Griffin, that's how it got to Detroit.

As for Brogdon, please tell me what in my post was an assumption? You tend to do this kind of stuff every once in awhile where you call out a post but then don't really back up why that person is wrong.

 

What? You are confusing knowledge of the cap and directions of franchises with being a journalist who breaks stories. I've known you for a long time, when have I ever tried to give myself props for calling a trade like that? I was one of the people who thought what the Lakers were offering was crap and I wouldn't have taken it either.

Take the Brogdon thing for example, as I laid out it is almost impossible for the Blazers to acquire him this summer. That doesn't mean that the Blazers don't want him or that they couldn't pursue him at the deadline next year or that he ends up with another team. I'm not trying to brag about being right about it, but that is pretty much a fact not an assumption. I also don't think it's speculation that the #1 team in the East wouldn't want to give away one of their best players for a bunch of crappy players on expiring contracts and draft picks so it's weird to just dismiss that opinion.