Politics My libertarian view on banning abortion

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  1. Lanny

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    The aborted fetal tissue is not considered capable of sustaining life. It doesn't even feel pain until well into the third trimester by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, (ACOG). There's not even a nerve pathway until about 24 weeks.

    Nobody deserves execution when you can safely confine them for life. It satisfies nothing but revenge. It doesn' t even act as a deterrent.
     
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    Yes well, I gave you the actual quote from the 1st amendment, commonly known as the establishment clause.
    As you see, it restrains Congress, nothing else.
    Carry on.
     
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    Im' not the only former Christian who "settled" on it...

    It's almost NO different than the Muslim religion that you hate so much.
     
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    1st I don't need your help. I am versed on the establishment clause. You don't have to automatically assume I don't...

    Now, who writes laws?

    Carry on...
     
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    Great! Many of your fellow Christians do not share your view. It would be great if people were more outspoken and could educate their more simple minded brethren that gay people aren’t going to “hell”. Or if they are, why do they care?
     
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    Are humans plants?
     
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    Love it.
    Pregnant = carpool lane lol.
     
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    If you can not see the difference in the teachings of Jesus from Mohammad, I don't know what to say.
    Perhaps, try again.
     
  9. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I'm a Christian and I believe in the separation of Church and State. My church also believes in that. Without the separation, one denomination is going to slowly gather power until they dictate to the rest of us what's right and wrong.
    At my church, we teach morality belongs in the church and at home. We leave politics to the politicians. I've been a member for 70 years and we've always been that way. You won't see any of our priests espousing political beliefs.
     
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    lots of people deserve execution.

    some deserve torture.
     
  11. MarAzul

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    Well, besides Congress,
    State Legislatures,
    Counties,
    City Councils.
    What else?
     
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    Perhaps culls would be a better word for those that need to be eliminated.
     
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    Sure, that's the same principle many murderers operate on. It's probably better that the community as a whole not operate by the same principles as those murderers, of killing and/or torturing people because we feel they needed killing and/or torturing.
     
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    Sigh... Know your book...

    2 Timothy 3:16 KJV
    16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
     
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    The current system isn't working. So maybe this is the better way.

    Kill faster and harder. Make it a real deterrant.

    In my book and in most cases, you rape or you murder someone, you deserve to be tortured before you are executed.
     
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    Cull???? Eliminate???? WTF???

    Yeah... Let me guess, you're pro life....

    WTF is wrong with people...?
     
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    Not trying to argue, just trying to share what the Bible says and what I believe. Not trying to force anything on anyone.

    I understand your counterpoints, yet still believe by faith - not blindly. I've done enough study to feel comfortable with the points you have brought up.

    I love that you have researched and know the Bible, we have just come to different conclusions.
     
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    When a man mounts another man,
    the throne of god trembles!

    No, Jesus did not say this. Mohammad did though, in the Hadiths.
     
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    It's already been shown that capital punishment isn't a deterrent, even terribly painful ones like the lethal injection chemicals used in some states or the electric chair.
     
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    Oh well. Just do it anyway. Earth will be better without rapists and murderers around.
     

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