OT Parkland School Cop Scot Peterson Arrested

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by Chris Craig, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,716
    Likes Received:
    58,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
  2. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,314
    Likes Received:
    26,876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Has the potential to be the first thread in S2 history where everyone agrees.
     
  3. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    123,021
    Likes Received:
    143,029
    Trophy Points:
    115
    Hi, you must be new here.
     
  4. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,314
    Likes Received:
    26,876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope, I feel good about this
     
    dviss1 and SlyPokerDog like this.
  5. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    17,117
    Likes Received:
    11,751
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Systems Analyst
    Location:
    Beaverton, Oregon
    Actually I didn't know being a coward was a criminal offense.
     
    illmatic99 likes this.
  6. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,060
    Likes Received:
    24,947
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    That's why Noël Coward wrote all his plays in prison.

    barfo
     
  7. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    19,582
    Likes Received:
    13,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    This is my take. I haven't researched what laws he's charged under but first impression is he's being charged for being a coward.
     
  8. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    26,285
    Likes Received:
    21,507
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Mhavent read details yet either.

    Fired for being a coward? Fair.
    Charges? Not fair.
     
  9. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    70,092
    Likes Received:
    58,076
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    Wow, this is a tough one. Biggest jerk/prick/coward ever, YES. Not sure that should be punishable. Slippery slope.
     
  10. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    50,346
    Likes Received:
    22,531
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Was this guy a cop? Or was he just a school security guard who had a license to carry?

    If its the latter, I would see him not signing up for that kind of bullshit. Kind of a little bitch for doing so, but he was probably some old guy who needed a job, not thinking he would be die on the job with crazed school shooters.
     
  11. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    If his job is to protect the students and he purposely did not (whether due to cowardice or other reasons), I can see how he could be guilty of criminal neglect. Just as a babysitter who doesn't pay attention to a small child while it does something dangerous and ends up killing itself could be liable criminally for neglect. When your job involves safeguarding others and you purposely neglect to do so, you may be legally responsible.
     
    dviss1 and Chris Craig like this.
  12. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    50,346
    Likes Received:
    22,531
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They would have to prove his actions would have definitely stopped the gunman. He was likely outgunned and didn't have the proper training to handle this situation. I'm guessing that will be his defense, he was not properly trained for a combat scenario.

    It would also set a precedent that the right thing to do in any scenario involving a deadly situation (even for example, someone with a knife) would be to shoot to kill, since not killing a threat would be tantamount to neglect.
     
  13. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    No, they wouldn't. Neglect isn't a claim that everything would have changed if he had done something. Neglect means he disregarded his required duties to a criminal extent.
     
    Lanny and dviss1 like this.
  14. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    50,346
    Likes Received:
    22,531
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Neglect would assume he was properly trained and capable to handle this situation. He likely had some sort of hand pistol while the gunman had a semi-automatic rifle. Getting into a gun battle in a school with no backup may have actually escalated the situation. I don't know his thought process, but if I was defending him, these are the arguments I would use.
     
  15. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    He didn't investigate and he told other law enforcement who arrived to remain 500 feet away. He's going to justifiably have a hard time in trial.
     
  16. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,716
    Likes Received:
    58,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He is a police officer, of course he is trained to shoot bad guys with guns. As school officer I am sure he was trained for such instances...its the very purpose of his job.

    If there is a gunman and my students are in his path, you fucking bet I will put my life on the line to protect them and stop the fucker.
     
    Hoopguru, Lanny and Further like this.
  17. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    58,716
    Likes Received:
    58,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This. He never truly invesitagted. He never went inside. He didn't do his job. He is crimminaly liable. You better bet the parents of the killed/shot students will be at his trial.
     
    Hoopguru and Lanny like this.
  18. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    50,346
    Likes Received:
    22,531
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We'll see what his training for this situation will reveal.

    "Shoot bad guys with guns" sounds nice, but it may not be what his training told him to do.
     
  19. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,281
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon

    I thought about that guy when the tragedy went down. I guess the officer in question was close to retirement. Then I began to think about assigning a near retiree to such duty. Duty where he is out of the main stream for the most part everyday, but Holy hell! When and if trouble came, it is so damned important that the Cop on Duty be ready to lock and load, take down the son of bitch!

    Nope, the guy should have been behind a desk or what I don't know, But this was not the place, guarding the children. Man you want the most ferocious bastard you can find for that job. A dude where no gunner in his half assed right mind would dare to cross.

    Prosecute the Chief, not the officer.
     
    Hoopguru and bodyman5000 and 1 like this.
  20. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    19,582
    Likes Received:
    13,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    He'll have an easy time with a good lawyer.

    First question to the jury in closing arguments....if there is a raging fire and people trapped in it, is a fireman required to go in and save them no matter what?

    Second is should a police officer be required to charge in to a shootout no matter what?

    I still think the guy was cowardly but I don't see how it is an easy conviction.
     
    MarAzul and Orion Bailey like this.

Share This Page