Blake Griffin or Kevin Love

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  1. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    So how do we get love?

    Would the Cavs do Love for Moe, Meyers, and our pick? Seems a little light on our end, even with his contract. But trades usually end up being lighter than we’d imagined. So maybe?
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Is Love the final major piece to make this team a title contender? With his injury history, I'm not so sure.
     
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    actually most teams have capoligists to work out all the necessary details.
     
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    I'm going to jump in here and offer my 2 cents on your final point. I think that when you look at bigger trades, you have to recognize how hamstrung the Blazers have been due to the Summer of 2016, when Olshey fell into the trap of spending cap space resulting from new TV revenues on a crop of free agents who weren't deserving of the money. I understand why that decision was made as a way of banking cap space that was going to be lost, but it didn't work out well for the Blazers because Turner, Leonard, and Harkless all under performed so that there was no trade market for them. That issue finally begins to change this summer when those contracts are now ending deals. Other pieces acquired since then (Collins, Nurk, & Simons) all now have considerable trade value. Most notably, CJ has become a legitimate scorer and borderline All-Star with potentially major trade value. For all of those reasons, this summer is the first one that Olshey has the resources to actually make a trade that has significant impact. I'm looking forward to seeing what he does either this summer or by the trade deadline next season. That's what I'm going to base my evaluation of him on; not what he hasn't been able to do when he didn't have the resources.
     
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    Nah, it's always the same few people that seem allergic to proper context, and assume it incorrectly.
     
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    I mean, we’re missing a guy with his skill set. A four that’s good on the boards, spaces the floor, playmaker, playoff experience, champion. Hes got flaws defensively, but is still better than Kanter. I hate his contract and injury history, but he’s also not a guy that relies on athleticism, so his game should age well. If we could get him without sacrificing Simons, I’d be all over it. If we had to give up Simons, I’d be more hesitant, but I’d probably still do it. He’d make the team a lot better.
     
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    Yes, now his crappy contracts are expiring. He's had assets though. He had a 4-year tenure here before that summer and his crowning achievement was Aaron Afflalo...

    In 8-years, Olshey hasn't acquired anything more than an (at the time) role player. Yet we keep hearing how many times hes "close" or "active" in pursuing big names. But somehow his terrible contracts become the excuse for his inability to convert the last 8 years.
     
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    I mean, yes please.
     
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    Im not sure how I feel about AD, Love or BG, they all have injury histories, Love is the only one thats really won and he had this guy named Lebron on his team. Id be somewhat hesitant to give away young guys like Simons for any of them. Ultimately you’d have to, and they all have skillsets that would help the team, but I think they all carry some pretty big risks with them.
     
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    I do love those outlet passes he throws, oh man him and Jake Layman could be really fun to watch. They'd give up like 140ppg but it would be fun to watch lol.
     
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    I’m just thinking of when teams trap Lillard. That shit wouldnt work with Love around because he’d either take a wide open three, or be the playmaker in a 4 on 3 situation. Having Nurk around will help too, but hes not that much of a threat to shoot.
     
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    Bullshit bones.

    Lopez was a good get.

    Also olshey didnt luck into Kanter. He built that relationship when he helped him get paid in okc.

    And ill go on record as agreeing with some others. You dismiss good moves and fault the bad.
    You may not think you do, but your posts certainly read that way. If that is not the intent then it isn't the same few readers, its most.

    NO deserves credit for kanter and you say he lucked into him. That invalidates everything else you say in that post.
     
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    Best thing he does. Too bad we don't run any transition.
     
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    Honestly, Love would be a perfect fit for the Rockets: Don't care about defense, just run up and down the court shooting 3s, pile up a lot of empty stats.
     
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    GMs are human and make mistakes. Good GMs own their mistakes and try to fix them. Outside of dumping Crabbe, Olshey has been unwilling or unable to address the problem he caused. Instead, he has used it as an excuse. Color me unimpressed.
     
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    The only realistic way to make up for mistakes is to mortgage the future just to get rid of a mistake. It's possible that he recognized the problem without being willing to make that sacrifice, which I completely agree with. This is what I meant in the other thread when I questioned you wanting draft picks but then make posts like this.
     
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    Are you saying they quoted him wrong? His quote in the article posted doesn't make any sense.
     
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    Im aware of all that, I just find it funny when people get excited about it the, “almosts”, and make a point to say, “LOOK HE’S DOING A GOOD JOB!”, its like well being “close” doesnt really count. Yeah I buy that NO has discussions all the time, but I dont really give him props for that... I guess its better than doing nothing at all.
     
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    Sorry, but I don't see the connection. All I'm saying is that a GM shouldn't be allowed to use his own past mistakes as an excuse for not getting things done.
     
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    So you're not impressed that he put together a team that made it to the WCF? Please, no excuses.
     

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