Exclusive The OFFICIAL 2019 NBA Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by GhostOfPGA, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

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    Good luck with that...
     
  2. OSUBlazerfan

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    Kanter isnt waiting until august
     
  3. hoopsjock

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    We can trade Bazemore by himself at any time. It's not happening but they can do it.

    Did you watch the press conference today? Olshey won't be trading Bazemore unless it's part of a deadline deal for a star.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Once you fill out the rotation, I don’t think the 12-15th man matter. We aren’t thin like the rockets who needed to rely on Daniel House.
     
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    No, I didn't watch it. Was there great fanfare for a player who scores at the same level as Al-Farouq Aminu and will make $19 million next season?
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    Dumping ET for even a modest upgrade was a win we had no right to expect.
     
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  8. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Really curious as to your reasoning on this take.
     
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  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Very confused by this line of thinking. Were they afraid Diallo and/or Johnson would sign their QO? Absent that, they still would have the same amount of cap space available; all they'd have had to have done was renounce a QO if they signed a FA. I really don't get limiting their options like this.
     
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  10. hoopsjock

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    I'm going to have to copy and paste this a lot.

    Without Layman Total Salary: $128,863,258 (give or take a few $100,000 for Little's actual signing number)
    Dame
    CJ
    Baze
    Nurk
    Harkless
    Leonard
    Zach
    Simons
    Trent
    Skal
    Little

    11 players under contract. Full-MLE is expected to be $9,246,000. Tax apron for the hard cap expected to be around $138,000,000.

    Salary after signing someone to the MLE: $138,109,258 with only 12 players. We pretty much have to have 15 with Nurk already injured.

    Minimum salary for players who have never played a game in the NBA: $897,158.

    Sign three of those guys to fill out the roster give us $140,800,732 or over the hard cap by $2,800,732 (subject to a slight variance depending on actual cap numbers). Dumping Skal doesn't quite get us there. Plus for each player you dump you have to add another $897,158.

    So if we'd need to at the absolute minimum dump $3,697,890 if we aren't taking a player back. That leaves 4 undrafted rookies that haven't signed with other teams as our 12-15 players on the roster and we'd have 5 rookies including Little. If we had a 10 man rotation that would mean all but one player on the list of current contracts would have to be part of our rotation. That's a bit crazy. That team is a big step down from last year's team and even worse if guys like Simons and Little aren't ready for more action.

    They'd have to make a trade like Harkless for Langston Galloway to save $3.8 million but doesn't also take a roster spot away. Even better if we could trade Harkless for two decent players together that add up to around $8 million. Until something like that happens though these are the facts without Layman.

    If Layman signs his QO or re-signs for more it makes it even more difficult.
     
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    They must have been worried about them accepting the QO like you mentioned. Since they have cap space they could in theory still re-sign them. It could just be that Griffin is moving on from some of the fringe players from the Demps era.

    I haven't checked yet either but with all the players and picks coming in from trades could it be a matter of not wanting to tie up roster spots.
     
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    what I haven't seen show up in the salary lists yet ia Nurk's 'likely' bonus of 1.25M. Maybe I've misread the CBA Faq's but I remember reading that when an unlikely bonus is achieved, it switches to likely the next season. Do I have that wrong?
     
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    You're not wrong, it just depends on how it's actually worded in the contract. I'm not sure how bonuses work with the hard csp and it's difficult to find that info.

    It's just a guess but if you are hard capped I'd imagine you have to count all bonuses no matter how unlikely. That would mean we need to clear at least $5 million.

    I'm not sure where Quick is getting $2 million from. He's obviously not factoring in the other roster spots that would need to be filled still.

    All of this makes me want to just sign the best player we can get to the Tax-MLE and sign more established vets to minimum contracts like Vince Carter and Robin Lopez or whoever. Then we don't have to worry about any hard cap situations for the entire year.
     
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    It’s no big loss. Johnson isn’t good.
     
  15. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I agree with that one. It's Diallo that really had me puzzled.
     
  16. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Id dump Moe just to resign Hood. We need Hood back.
     
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    Not nearly as much with Bazemore
     
  18. SharpesTriumph

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    If we make all these type of moves to, where we see right at the hard cap we have no ability to sign a player during the season, or pickup a waived player as we did with Kanter.

    My take away from all your good work is its just not worth getting the full MLE.
     
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    I would too, but to purely dump MO do we have to give up a good pick, and have the other downsides of being hard capped? I wouldn't do all of that for the chance to pay Hood $9 million. He could end up being overpaid at that number in a season or two.
     
  20. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I like Kemba to Boston.
     

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