I liked Warren and Bernie. I don't think they lost any ground. I agreed with some of the things Klobuchar said. I think she could make a good VP. I don't see her winning the nomination. Delaney tried to take on Warren/Sanders and failed. I don't think he will be around a lot longer in the race Buttigeg did ok. He had a few strong moments. I don't think he gained or lost ground. O'Rourke did better than last debate, and could be a vp candidate. His candidacy for president isn't looking great. I could see Tim Ryan as a VP candidate Bullock is one and done I like Hickenlooper. He has some real experience with success in economy, environment, and such. I don't see him going much further though. Marianne Williamson was a bit more coherent today. She is a bit out there. I'd say she is done, but she will probably be around for the next debate.
I agree with Chris Craig's views above almost entirely, except the part about Tim Ryan as VP. Yuck. Someone said that Bullock looks the most like someone picked to play the role of President on TV. I agree with that. I don't think anyone changed their individual trajectory tonight in a significant way. Most of them did better than in the first debate, but that rising tide floated all boats. I thought the moderators sucked. They didn't control the time, and their questions were often stupid attempts at 'gotcha' or 'let's see if we can get candidates X and Y fight with each other'. barfo
I didn't say I wanted Ryan as VP. I said I could see him being chosen as a running mate, mostly because his connections with the working class and the fact he is from Ohio.
Understood. But, yuck. And also, I choose to think if he gets chosen it means we chose the wrong chooser. barfo
@Lanny there is some left. Come by. Moderators were awful. A little better second hour but overall bad. Everything framed poorly, when they finally got to climate change, for example, phrased as why is green new deal bad idea. Warren had strong opening statement, kept her cool, no errors. Bernie still yells too much but "I wrote the damn bill" great riposte. Numerous candidates apparently had "no we can't" as campaign slogan Every time Warren said something moderators asked Delaney or Hickenlooper to mansplain to her. Williamson made some good points but her close made me want to hold hands and sing Kumbaya. Buttigieg good moments, especially looking into camera and asking Republican elected officials to stand up to racism. Women totally absent. At a time of full frontal assault on women's rights, nothing on reproductive freedom, violence against women act, sexual assault, harassment, equal pay, family leave, childcare. Like, there's POLITICS ... and then there's women. Big winner, Lucia! All my guests turned out to be cat fanatics so she got attention and treats to her heart's content. My biggest food hit was actually the bread I baked that morning after a two day slow ferment.
Holy crap, homemade bread, too. Why do you torture me? I thought you lived in the Bay area? I'm about 600 miles from there. I don't think I could get back in time for my 6 AM dialysis appointment.
Warren/Buttigieg ticket would be my choice at this point I’d pay money to see Warren shred Trump in the debates. It’d be a blood bath.
Good debate The Moderators continued to try and pit the candidates against other Jerry Springer style to drive up dramatics. Biden got his ass handed to him, came back, got his ass handed to him, and came back again...rinse and repeat. He survived though. I doubt his numbers dip much. He is still the front runner. Harris got attacked quite frequently about her insurance for all plan and her criminal justice reform among other things. When she did, she attacked Biden. I'd say she survived the debate, but her numbers wont rise much Booker was strong tonight, one of the winners. His attacks on Biden were the strongest. I don't think he will win the nomination, but he would make a good VP. Castro wasn't as strong as in the first debate. He had moments, and was articulate and precise with his words. Ge will be in the next debate. He's a wild card. Probably won't win the nomination, but would make an excellent VP Inslee is a cool cucumber. He has gotten a lot done as governor. He says the right things. He would be my pick for VP. Yang...$1000! Economy: $1000! Climate Change: $1000! Crimminal Justice Reform: $1000! Immigration: $1000! Every issue: $1000! But, seriously he said some real shit too. $1000! Wait is that $1000 a month tax free? De Blasio seemed desperate in his attacks on Biden in trying to create moments for himself. He has good things to say, but I'm not buying it from him. I don't trust him. I don't trust his we. Gillibrand comes off as fake Bennet sounds like Garfield. He is somewhat likeable and could be a vp pick. I don't know though. I certaintly don't see him going much further his run for prseident. Gabbard comes off as intelligent and strong. I don't think she had enough big moments to propel her forward though. Her attack on Harris....damn. I don't however, see her winning the nomination. She would make an intriguing vp pick though.
At this point Warren is the strongest candidate. Biden will win the nomination Probably a Biden/Gabbard or Biden/Harris ticket
Harris looked terrible. Booker did well. Biden is a mess. Inslee surprisingly good (relatively speaking, still not great). It was a weak field. I think the Democrats are making a huge mistake attacking each other. Too much infighting. They should be focusing on Trumps antics and their plans without attacking. Attack Trump not each other
I think once the field is narrowed down to about 5, it'll become about why they are different from him, instead of different from each other. Or so I hope.
We know all the candidates (and a shit load of people) don’t like Donald Trump. We knew that before they got on stage. It’s a perfectly fair opinion to have. It is not a position to run your entire campaign on! So lame to hear his name uttered incessantly by people who should laying out their own policies. A handful of standouts for me, negative or positive, are as follows: Biden is old, out of touch and really just sucks all around. His entire campaign consists of Obama and Trump praises/criticisms. Establishment status quo through and through. Cory Booker says whatever it takes to get an applause break, without the record to back it up. Kamala Harris is basically a hard-lined establishment republican, with the record to back it up. Tulsi is still my favorite democrat and the only one willing to admit that our inflated defense budget is the reason we have no healthcare, shitty schools and crumbling infrastructure. Andrew Yang drones on about automation while everyone rolls their eyes. We will probably all get fucked by robots eventually and realize we should’ve listened to him. Bonus points for not being a politician. Everyone else bombarded us with bland platitudes and applause-break phrases we’ve all heard before. I honestly can’t recall anything of note from them.
Joe too often seemed old and a tad feeble. Slow. Inarticulate. His fast ball ain't what it once was. And if the logic for his candidacy is he is best positioned to beat Trump, that won't fly long term. Warren, Booker, and Harris seem much better informed, sharp, ready, and capable of "making the case." I'm surprised to like Warren as much as I have, but both she and Bernie are making ridiculous promises. Tulsi Gabbard is impressive. I bet we get a ticket of Kamala Harris and Butegig (generational and demographic change) or maybe Inslee (climate trumps everything and gets out the base.)
