Politics 2020 Debate part 2

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  1. jonnyboy

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    That’s literally all a lot of them did. And they looked stupid doing it. Swinging at the air while their competitors are standing next to them. The few candidates that were able to veer away from that and actually set themselves apart from the people around them were the only standouts. Attacking Trump is what the general election is for, not when you get thrown a tough question in the primaries. You can watch people bash trump all day and all night on television, it’s not position to run a campaign on.
     
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    Completely disagree. Of course they have to talk about their agenda. But they didn’t hit Trump enough. Not nearly enough. They bagged on Obama tonight, who is one of the the most loved Dem Presidents ever. Um...don’t do that. Rip Trump not Obama.

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    Trump = 9/11

     
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    Looked stupid to who? Trump lovers? Sure. You think any democrat voters thought they looked stupid attacking Trump? Lol.
     
  5. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    weird, I don't hear sound on the above video either...but I know my sound card works as i can listen to youtube itself.
     
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    I didn't think Biden did as badly as most of you. He was on defense all night, and yes, he's still awfully damned old. But he wasn't on his heels as much as the first debate, and got attacked a lot more. He survived, I think, and that was probably all he needed to do. Although ending with
    "what's that young feller? web sight? do I use my AOL password?"
    wasn't a good look.

    Booker had a good night, it helped that he was sunny when everyone else was kind of crabby. This debate was the least fun to watch of the 4 so far.

    Like last night, most everyone upped their game from the first round last month, and nobody broke out, I don't think.

    I found both Bennet and Gillibrand annoying. They have no reason to be up there, at least not that they can articulate. I was surprised Gillibrand went ahead with the attack on Biden's 1981 editorial, because it had been leaked, and so Biden was better prepared for that than anything else tonight. It wasn't a very fair attack, either, if you read the editorial. But, as they say, politics aint beanbag.

    Kamala didn't have a good night, and if anything, she might lose traction.

    Inslee and De Blasio had good nights but probably didn't do enough to make the next debate.

    Gabbard had a solid, if somewhat bland, outing. She did land a punch on Kamala. She's a good puncher. I don't know if we'll ever find out if she can take a punch.

    Yang... needs to talk about something other than the $1000. I know he has positions on other issues, but only because I've looked at his website.

    Castro. He's last here because I couldn't think of who the 10th guy was. He didn't have a bad debate, but... I hope he runs for Senate.

    I don't think the polls are going to be much different after this round.

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  7. jonnyboy

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    Joe Scarborough and his comrades at MSNBC have literally scared Democrat voters away in droves. They are a huge part of the reason Trump is even sitting in the White House right now. People are getting tired of the soap opera and would like to hear some real shit. Bashing Trump isn’t a position, it’s a quick and easy way to evade a tough question. We can all go watch Morning Joe if we want attacks on Trump and russiagate hysteria. The fact is, most of us don’t. We’d like to hear some new ideas.
     
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    Hmm, I don't know how to tell you this, but...

    it only gets worse from here

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    I’m not sure you or Joe Scarborough understand the concept of debate.

    Generally, you debate those who are present and willing to provide rebuttal. The people standing around you on the debate stage are a good place to start.

    A bunch of people standing around bashing someone who isn’t there isn’t a debate. That’s a sewing circle.
     
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    Ya. I get it. As I said they should be communicating their policies and agenda. And attacking Trump. Not fucking Obama’s policies who 100% of democrats love.
     
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    A political debate bears the same resemblance to an actual debate as a political party bears to an actual party.

    In other words I think you are applying an unrealistic standard. They are not there to debate. They are there to attract voters and donors and volunteers.

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    Obama criticisms are relevant in the healthcare debate. His healthcare plan was not successful and certain candidates were making calls to expand on it.
     
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    One more note: Yang and Gabbard both went dark at the end, Yang with 'you're gonna drown if you don't start moving to higher ground' and Gabbard with 'we're all gonna die in a flaming nuclear holocaust'.

    Might not be the sunny optimism that we usually look for in a candidate?

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    Eric Holder is not a good dude.
     
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    “We’re all gonna die” seems to be working well for AOC.
     
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    I think this is fucking terrible. Biden is even money in a debate with Trump. Warren would kill him. This matters as much as anything.
     
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    She’s a freshman.
     
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    No he's not. Biden is done. Mark my words.

    He sucks as a debater and got his ass handed to him in 2/2 debates.
     
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