Grade Olshey Thus Far As Blazers GM

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What Overall Grade Do You Give Olshey?

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  2. A

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  3. A-

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  4. B+

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  5. B

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  6. B-

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  7. C+

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  8. C

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  9. C-

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  10. D

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  1. STOMP

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    Good grief man! GMs don't read the opinions of internet wannabes. They form their own opinions through first hand observation and team scouts. Some internet nobody isn't going to go to Greece to scout GA or anyone, hence no reports. How many times does this need to be explained to you!

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    Getting 30-35 minutes isn't stuck on the bench. What are you talking about?

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    Where did I say GM's use the internet wannabes for their decision making? Analysts do research and scouting to evaluate players and GM's have scouts, live game action, film as well as interaction with multiple sources and yet they still make mistakes but can you explain to us why Giannis was projected so low then? Same with Leonard and George? It's almost like saying Pritchard should have known Oden was going to have a serious injury and basically end his career.

    PS- Could you also refrain from the snide and condescending remarks though
     
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    You just proved my point. Collins was also drafted at 19.
     
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    I'm literally shaking my head after every post of yours as each makes less sense. If there is any truth to the red flag medical reports on Oden with one leg significantly longer then the other, damn right Pritchard should have known. You asked for reports glowing on Giannis going into the draft. Who else but internet wannabes produces those? Analysts are exactly the wannabes I'm speaking of. Generally, they know shit about foreign prospects and spend zero time scouting overseas. All they really want to do is fill their columns. Why did Leonard and George project low? Probably because they played at smaller schools and weren't heavily scouted by lazy analysts. Guessing many of the GMs who passed on them are now unemployed.

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    He wouldnt have been able to get that many minutes off the bat and his career trajectory mightve changed from that point on.
     
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    Sorry but no. As I closed in the post you're responding to, Mitchell is only one of the extremely arguable examples of misses in the draft by NO besides Biggie. Though I've my favorites to root for, I also view all the players as tradable commodities. Hopefully ZC will continue to trend up and become the next great Blazer 4/5 alla Sheed & LA, hell hopefully he'll be able to dunk from the 3 point line too, but right now I'm pretty sure that Mitchell would be worth far more on the trade market then Zach. Do you really disagree?

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    No GM had Giannis rated as the #1 pick let alone as a lottery pick.
     
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    Why in the world not? I already detailed how it's possible. Hell in what would have been his rookie year, Shabaz Napier and Pat Connaughton averaged 39 minutes combined. I'm sure he could have dug into Turner's 26 minutes too.

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    Lol, oh okay, GMs are sharing their lists with you!!!! To even float that as if is so overboard ridiculous, but I'm sensing a pattern here.

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    But my point was that at this point in his career (2 years) Giannis wasn't anything significant either so why does Zach's trade value in year 2 matter compared to someone who was ready to play immediately? In the end if Zach turns out better than Mitchell what is more important: trade value 2 years in or total career?

    It's not always clear that the best player is both the right fit and would've been the same in a different system.
     
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    Not that I'm defending him but the fact he wasn't chosen until 15th kinda proves that at least half of the teams didn't have him rated #1.
     
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    Fair enough. Fingers crossed on Zach, but Mitchell is already an established stud.

    I'm off to the gym...

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    If Collins went to say the Nets and played 25-30 minutes his first 2 seasons maybe he'd be killing it too.
     
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    It only takes one GM to choose an Anthony Bennett and make him the #1 pick. That doesn't make him the top talent, it just fast tracks that GM for unemployment.

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    But the other 13 GM'S didn't have him above who they took either.
     
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    Incorrect. Donnie Nelson begged Mark Cuban to draft Giannis at 13.
     
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    As well as no team was reported to have been trying to move up
    in the draft to grab Giannis. All of those GM's must be idiots as well. Hindsight, arguably the best evaluation tool.
     
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    So 1 team and at 13th. Pretty much adds to my point that no one knew he would be last years mvp when drafted and a "generation player"
     
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    ...whatever the grade, this was easily his best move! :biglaugh:
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